brianna_sometimes t1_itz2yvc wrote
Reply to comment by amaroque9 in International scientists find Earth is ‘unequivocally’ in midst of climate emergency. The report shows new data illustrating increasing frequency of extreme heat events, rising global tree cover loss because of fires, and a greater prevalence of the mosquito-borne dengue virus. by Wagamaga
Going vegan will not save the world. Corporations and governments have to take immediate and serious action. Why take what little joy some people have left.
amaroque9 t1_itz3ftn wrote
Because science says we need to eat more plant based at a minimum to keep under 2°C rise
"We conclude that reduced ruminant meat and dairy consumption will be indispensable for reaching the 2 °C target with a high probability, unless unprecedented advances in technology take place."
brianna_sometimes t1_itz7skx wrote
Reduced. Not eliminated.
amaroque9 t1_itza9l3 wrote
Everywhere you look you're being told to reduce your meat consumption at a minimum. The benefits are maximized with veganism
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/dec/03/eating-less-meat-curb-climate-change
http://fortune.com/2017/07/19/climate-change-vegan-vegetarian-diet-humane-society/
https://weather.com/science/environment/news/eating-red-meat-contributes-to-climate-change
http://www.newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/3956
brianna_sometimes t1_itz7x7c wrote
And it specifies ruminants. Nothing about going vegan.
amaroque9 t1_itza04l wrote
Still making excuses. Everyone else change but me. You're the problem here, not corporations
brianna_sometimes t1_itzcaqu wrote
You don't know my diet. I reduced dairy and ruminates years ago. Both to lower my carbon footprint and for health reasons. Sorry. I'm not going vegan.
amaroque9 t1_itzcmwg wrote
Then stop complaining that others aren't doing all they can when you're not either
brianna_sometimes t1_itzdr11 wrote
Are you seriously equating the amount of damage individuals do to the amount of damage corporations and the elite do. If I was flying private jets across the globe daily, maybe I could significantly reduce my emissions. I encourage all to reduce their footprint. Going vegan is extreme.
amaroque9 t1_itzeger wrote
According to the UNs FAO, "animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all forms of transportation combined."
It's gonna take everybody doing everything they can. There are 8 billion people on the planet. 8 billion people can do a lot. The results are cumulative as is the damage
As the saying goes, you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. You're a little bit of each, aren't you
brianna_sometimes t1_itzghyp wrote
Again, vegan is extreme. Especially, when I already view it as a lost cause. I do not see any changes being made. The world puts out more emissions annually despite pledges to cut.
amaroque9 t1_itzhpjy wrote
I think the collapse of humanity because you want to eat bacon is extreme but that's just me
But you essentially proved my point anyway. Everyone recognizes changes need to be made but they don't want to make them themselves. That's the real lost cause.
gerundive t1_iu1pgdb wrote
> Going vegan is extreme.
So is climate change.
Dranzell t1_itzjbu5 wrote
Vegans are a different breed, I tell you. They are sitting on a pedestal I can't even fathom reaching.
amaroque9 t1_itzjujd wrote
Love science people that deny science. You're just the best.
Seriously, just Google animal agriculture and climate change and you'll find that I'm 100% correct
Sticking your head in the sand is just an invitation to get kicked in the ass
Ralltir t1_itz960f wrote
I don’t personally think it will help. We’re too far gone. But I am vegan. Because it’s morally right. The outcome of a situation does not change the morality of the choices we make.
amaroque9 t1_itzi95s wrote
Every bit helps. Animal agriculture is the third leading driver of climate change. The more people get on board, the bigger the effect
I just get sick of people blaming politicians and corporations and the "elite" while simultaneously being part of the problem
Being vegan IS the most immediate and effective step any individual can personally take
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