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What is HF? It's not actually in the article's title, and it doesn't appear used in the article.

Using acronyms doesn't make you look smart. It just wastes other people's time.

Heart failure. The article talks about heart failure, repeatedly.

> "[I]nclusion of some ALA-rich foods, such as walnuts, in the diet of any individual, whether they have HF or not, might translate into [cardiovascular] benefits, besides the putative effect on [heart failure]," Sala-Vila said, according to Medscape.

It's also found in the article.

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Ah yes the carnivorous marine vegetable that swims up stream to flower and seed.

You don't need to be plant based to reduce HF, just cut out crap foods.

The article isn't saying you HAVE to.

I didn't say it was?

So you were just saying the obvious? Ok..

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Maybe I'm dumb, but could it be because plant diet eaters are more conscious of their health?

That under-ripe avocado is bothering me.

The only problem is, omega3 can be found in animal based foods.

And to think it might have an overall effect on outcomes regardless of the cause of heart failure ( NICM, ICM, valvular disease, PHT etc,) tells me it’s probably a poorly designed study that looked to favor plant based foods.

Funded by Seventh Day Adventists possibly?

Just eat more plants than meat. And stay away from pre-made foods.

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I mean, it could be. But we have a wealth of knowledge stating that plant based diets are cardioprotective and help defend against atherosclerosis.

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You don't really have any reason to be as argumentative as you're being.

Your life doing alright?

you are confused

Why would anyone eat more plants? Meat has more nutrients.

The omega-3 fatty acids present in animals(i.e fish) come from the algae they eat in their diets. Foods such as flax, chia, walnuts contain high levels of omega 3 fatty acids as well.

We they both have nutrients you need. It's about balance. I am not a vegan. Love me aome steak but you really should not eat steak more than a few times a year.

What are you basing any of that on?

I think the studies how animal fats affect the human body have been around for some time and are sound. Essentially I'm saying it common knowledge and has been for a long time.

My mother-in-laws father was a neurologist back in 20s, 30s and 40s. When she was a child she could remember that her father would never allow them to eat fried foods or large amounts of animals fats like what you find in steak. It was lean meats a few times a week, fresh veggies and fresh fruits.

Maybe the older, not as good quality studies. Newer studies show saturated fat doesn't contribute to cardiovascular disease. Also if you compare the nutrient profile of supposed super foods like kale to a rib eye there is no comparison. Especially when you factor in that most plant nutrients need to be converted to be used and are done so poorly.

Humans have been eating fatty red meats for thousands of years at least so not sure why it would all of a sudden be seen as bad.

It's not bad. I never ever said it was bad. You need protein as it is an essential part of the human diet and so is fat. But we don't need that much of it. Too much of the fats and red meat is proinflamatory. It's really about balance. A human cannot live in plants alone nor can they live on meat alone. The two work together. Plant sterols and phenols ant anti-inflammatory and they are also rich in stuff you can't get from meat. And you do need more of it.

Many people thrive on meat only diets or largely meat with plenty of fat. That made up most of our diet through most of human history if you look into what tribes and ancient people ate.

You cannot live on meat alone. At least not for long. But do as you wish.

You absolutely can, many do and thrive. Doctors also.