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NBAccount t1_ixi51mr wrote

This is odd. It feels almost sensationalist to publish this so early in its process.

This is like finding your trash cans knocked over and then telling everyone there might be bears in the neighborhood.

Sure, there might be bears, but you don't have nearly enough information to state that conclusively, so it feels premature (if not disingenuous) to tell people that.

They are using approximations and provide no comparative analysis.

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BronchialChunk t1_ixi96gv wrote

let bears pay the bear tax! I pay the Homer tax. Dad, it's homeowner tax.

Anyhow, better than them claiming jewish space laser I guess.

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ExtonGuy t1_ixja8cp wrote

Wait … bears are Jewish?

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fargmania t1_ixjsi5j wrote

Well they need a Bear Mitzvah first.

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janovich8 t1_ixl7550 wrote

Do they say mazel-paws afterward?

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BronchialChunk t1_ixmesxn wrote

so a polar bear walks in to a bar, goes up to the bartender and goes: can I have a gin..........................................................and tonic?

bartender goes: why the long pause?

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choke_da_wokes t1_ixk81jq wrote

Jewish space bears firing lasers at Kanye. No wonder he’s pissed

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freelanceMoron t1_ixkac2r wrote

Pretty sure they're catholic... and that the pope shits in the woods...

I might be getting that backwards though.

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chiefwiggum-Pi t1_ixks6b6 wrote

Anyways I'm still outraged.

On a side note, did you ever notice in that episode of the simpsons that there is a scene where the newspaper shows an article talking about the continued bombing campaign by the bear patrol? I love that Easter egg.

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JustASingleHorn t1_ixlrlap wrote

I got “bear proof” trash cans… so I know if it’s ripped open, it wasn’t a fox… $400 to mostly keep the “bears out” per trash can otherwise it’s a huge fine..

(I can only speak towards the topic of bears in trash cans)

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amfibbius t1_ixif4jx wrote

Sensationalism from MOND advocates? Inconceivable!

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jonathanrdt t1_ixjg2b1 wrote

Science is too slow for journalism. We need conjecture and controversy, and we need it fast.

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stackered t1_ixjqxrf wrote

we also need... mods to do stuff here

I want to start a legit science sub soon, where scientists discuss papers in depth and only direct links to studies are allowed with original titles

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Stunning_Regret6123 t1_ixl0ohb wrote

I’ve wanted to do a StackOverflow-style site for that for awhile. I think a club/group/movement for this would be cool, so I hope you do. People with credibility making supported arguments. Like the exact opposite of Reddit, where strangers make emotional arguments for whose line points. It has a place, but I don’t think pushing the boundaries of science or education is it.

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Nogohoho t1_ixjxxi2 wrote

Look! There's one galaxy out of billions that could support our theory. That must mean it's proven!

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chesterbennediction t1_ixkm7d3 wrote

To be fair dark matter is pretty out there as a hypothesis. We can't even measure it and it's concentration should vary in different parts of the universe.

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haulenoats t1_ixksn42 wrote

What if I'm missing a picnic basket as well?

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[deleted] t1_ixkz4ch wrote

What? Are you telling me this poop i found on my lawn does not belong to bigfoot?!!?!!

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hangryhyax t1_ixlhjqn wrote

Hi, I see you’re new to space.com.

It feels almost sensationalist because it is… that’s what they do

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Black_RL t1_ixm3g7a wrote

Why are you stealing all the thunder?

I was enjoying it….. :(

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[deleted] t1_ixi7zk7 wrote

Well, I think that's why there is the word may in the title as opposed to will, or does, or likely to; and instead went with may?

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Bakkster t1_ixidjab wrote

I think it's important to look at the quote from the lead author:

> "This is basically a game-changer," he said. "This destroys all the work done on galaxies and on cosmology [that] assumes dark matter and Newtonian gravity."

While this kind of upending of existing models and theories certainly happens, being certain of doing so can be a red flag of quackery. From the final quote from a third party:

> But "as they admit the paper themselves, they are using an approximate calculation that needs to be confirmed… [and] they haven't quantified how large the disagreement with data is," she said. "So I think it remains to be seen how good this argument actually is."

Loudly claiming to upend cosmology in the press, while the actual paper is much more tentative, is bad optics.

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InTheEndEntropyWins t1_ixienhk wrote

Yeh, those quotes seem a bit suspect. Also all modern MOND theories still need dark matter to explain what we see.

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Lazy-Requirement-228 t1_ixi8zg1 wrote

More like, what's the point of talking about it so early on? Seems like time would be better spend wowing the public with something more substantial.

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CotyledonTomen t1_ixi9j50 wrote

Capitalism. Gotta get eyes those eyes.

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[deleted] t1_ixicgc2 wrote

Everybody gotta eat.

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CotyledonTomen t1_ixidmok wrote

Doesnt mean we have to create industries around sensationalizing necessary information. Science, news, politics. They dont have to be set up around deceit and manipulation of consumers needing information to make decisions about their lives. But competition around telling people what should be facts results in distortion of those facts.

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I_T_Gamer t1_ixiejvb wrote

This has been the SOP of any print, or recorded news agency for at least a decade. Capitalism is great, if we could take the greed, and people out of the equation.

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CotyledonTomen t1_ixirolb wrote

Thats like saying air is great, if we could take the O2 out of the equation. Capitalism has been around longer than the word and is just utilizing the greed of people, which isnt inherently bad as we all need resources, to direct and perfect resource production. We just industrialized and now think our new use is somehow special and unique.

When all the worlds resources are at our finger tips, something we shouldnt have such ready access too, we have to overcome our evolutionary desire to take everything for ourselves.

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Dave10293847 t1_ixj4hjt wrote

As scarcity diminishes, so to do the positives of capitalism. It’ll be a very tough transition. Ya know, assuming we don’t all drown or go up in a mushroom cloud.

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Strazdas1 t1_ixlhb6h wrote

Oh you sweet summer child. Decade? Try since 1790.

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[deleted] t1_ixjl3kr wrote

We didn’t, dictator.

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CotyledonTomen t1_ixjs5ff wrote

>We didn’t, dictator.

What a conversationalist/s

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[deleted] t1_ixjv3q9 wrote

We didn’t create industries; you are policing other people. Authoritarian nonsense. Don’t like it, move on.

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CotyledonTomen t1_ixjw3hq wrote

What a rediculous statement. People make companies. People use a companys services. People regulate companies. People make, dictate, and utilize industries. Its not magic. Its choices everybody makes as a society. If you dont like it, find a forest. Otherwise, you have neighbors you choose to live next to, so are required to adjust your life accordingly. Thats everywhere.

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[deleted] t1_ixjwrj6 wrote

And, I like the presence of more science articles, and people decide for themselves.

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CotyledonTomen t1_ixjxv6o wrote

That has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Nonsense like everything else youve said.

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nhavar t1_ixjdys4 wrote

Wouldn't it be more like you walk out and find the trash knocked over and think "bears maybe" while everyone else just knows that trash only ever gets dumped over by big foot even though there's no specific proof of big foot. That's how dark matter feels... it's legitimate science's version of sasquatch.

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