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AugustWolf22 t1_j5in8e1 wrote

This is silly. It's pointless to have political dialogue and understanding when the whole argument of one side is that they want to ethnically cleanse and expell your people and are taught to view you as a lesser being. Imagine if in South Africa they had just peacefully talked an end to apartheid instead of protesting, fighting and sanctioning it. because both sides saw the common ground - basically the argument if this study. Doing so is suicide for groups in such situations.

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amos106 t1_j5k2scz wrote

It sounds like the political dialog was being guided in a way that helped to deconstruct that indoctrination and build understanding that they are also human beings, and this applies to both parties. Human relations are built on trust and reciprocation so if you want the violence to stop you need to figure out ways of establishing those two things.

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YurtMcGirt t1_j5jw2a8 wrote

If it’s pointless to have dialogue then what alternative do you suggest?

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AugustWolf22 t1_j5k393m wrote

I'm not saying that dialogue itself is useless per se, but rather individualised dialogue like this, when the issue is a systemic one originating from the overall goals of the group/society. Small actions like these can't change the fact that the aim of the Israeli state is to completely colonise Palestine and erase it's statehood and the rights of the Palestinian people in favour of Israeli citizens. Dialogue/diplomacy must be accompanied by systematic, sweeping top-down changes to the nature of the israeli goals with regards to Palestinian lands for thid conflict to be resolved. Trying to all get along and be friends just won't cut it.

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The_Last_Green_leaf t1_j5k082z wrote

>when the whole argument of one side is that they want to ethnically cleanse and expell your people and are taught to view you as a lesser being.

this alone just shows that you could do with this training, considering this is just 100% a strawman,

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AugustWolf22 t1_j5k24gt wrote

I'm not trying to strawman. But when you have groups who's altimate goal is the surpression and/ or extermination of your own group of people, dialogue is pointless. obviously people's personal views can vary somewhat here but we are talking moreso about the objectives of the group as a whole. To give another example would you be happy if they did this sort of program with a group of Ukrainians and Russians? would that be worthwhile and productive in your opinion?

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myshiningmask t1_j5ml8qc wrote

teaching people to functionally express opinions, especially political ones is very important if you want change. Mastery of our reactions and responses is one step toward being able to act on a situation whether that be through organizing like-minded persons or standing up and speaking against injustice. Foreign powers might feel more sympathy for a Palestine that was willing to accept Israel has a right to exist. That's a pretty hard place to negotiate peace from, since you've mentioned that particular conflict.

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