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jdmcnair t1_j29hpnz wrote

For all of the FLOPS people are sucking down, OpenAI is getting a fucking massive boost in that RLHF you mention. It may not be paying for itself yet, but it's more than worth the investment for the real-world human training context they're getting.

And when they do decide to close down the public preview and go for a subscription model, lots of people will go for it, because they've already proven out how clearly useful it is.

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ftc1234 t1_j2a4gwv wrote

This. The harder thing to build than good AI is to build an early movers advantage. OpenAI is starting to see that now.

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SoylentRox t1_j2adgyv wrote

Yep. I want a premium tier where I can make as queries and get immediate responses with no cooldowns. I would expect a monthly plan where i get a certain number of queries included and can buy more.

In a few years I would expect my employer to pay for the subscription but in the immediate future I'm happy to do so. I don't ask it to write anything I can't write but it saves all this time.

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terrabi t1_j2axjua wrote

I hope it won't be a subscription but pay-as-you-go, just like it already is with gpt3 and dall-e.

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AdminsBurnInAFire t1_j2dlkbr wrote

Holy shit do you guys have infinite money? Do you not understand how awful a subscription economy is? You will own nothing and rent forever.

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SoylentRox t1_j2ebbo1 wrote

That's fine. Owning stuff is inefficient. I would rather own shares of stocks and rent everything else.

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AdminsBurnInAFire t1_j2ecy9p wrote

That’s how you become a digital serf. Owning is always the smart choice.

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SoylentRox t1_j2ei4bm wrote

No, it makes you a digital elite.

If you own stock but rent your phone, car, and home, you can move whenever you want and always have the latest car and phone. You benefit from the extra technology.

While I don't actually rent my car or phone as I don't need either to be the absolute latest, I do rent software. As anything but the most recent version is useless to me.

For AI models it's the same idea.

I have hundreds of thousands, soon to be over 1m in stock. As much 'equity' as an extremely lucky homeowner.

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AdminsBurnInAFire t1_j2ej85m wrote

No, the digital elite all have their possessions secured with a purchase, often multiple purchases, because they’re not foolish.

What you do not own, can always be taken from you. You don’t need to worry (too much) about your software being taken from you but you do need to worry about your house being taken from you. The only argument for renting that can be taken seriously is convenience and security always trumps convenience. The same thing for stocks, if Wall Street fucks up one day and says your stocks are worth nothing, what can you do? Meanwhile if the bank comes for your house, you have a bill of ownership protecting your rights.

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SoylentRox t1_j2ek52w wrote

>What you do not own, can always be taken from you. You don’t need to worry (too much) about your software being taken from you but you do need to worry about your house being taken from you.

This is not a problem if you have money. Just go rent something else. Also if your landlord decides to go through the eviction procedure, there is no ASSET for you to lose.

If you own a house, and a judge decides to order it seized in a civil action (like a divorce or lawsuit), or your corrupt HOA makes up some fines of arbitrary scale and then sues you and seizes it if you can't pay, you lose the EQUITY.

I'd rather have all my assets in stock, and borrow against it if I have a need for money fast when the market is low.

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PanicV2 t1_j2eiweq wrote

So what's your plan then? You want to buy your own?

I'm pretty confident a subscription is cheaper than the alternative here, unless you are FAANG.

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sharkymcstevenson2 t1_j2cjujb wrote

Alfred has this.

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SoylentRox t1_j2cjzfa wrote

Is this the same model that was refined via RLHF? The base GPT-3 is not that.

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sharkymcstevenson2 t1_j2ckgav wrote

Alfred is based on GPT-3 with a finetuned model to be as similar as possible as ChatGPT, since ChatGPT API isnt available yet (hoping for a public release soon)

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Spacebetweenthenoise t1_j2aoo0y wrote

Another subscription??? Please not.

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stevenbrown375 t1_j2b467b wrote

On the flipside I'd pay $200 a month, but it's very useful in my line of work. It's saved me days.

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visarga t1_j2bhslk wrote

If you're after the capability and not the chat interface, you can already use text-davinci-003 through the playground or API.

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stevenbrown375 t1_j2bkt4p wrote

I’m actually after the chat I guess; I’m in marketing.

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karaburmication t1_j2bs95a wrote

Mind explaining briefly what you use it for exactly?

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stevenbrown375 t1_j2bt7cj wrote

A few things off the top of my head:

  • Writing criteria and methodologies for marketing studies.
  • Converting table data into prose.
  • Copywriting (duh)
  • Creative brainstorming
  • Project planning and basic guidance
  • A file-naming-standards widget I’m building in Excel, and potentially in PowerApps.
  • Building a style guide
  • Writing go-to-market plans
  • javascript expressions for Adobe After Effects
  • Presentation planning
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-ZeroRelevance- t1_j2bzq04 wrote

If you didn’t know, you can actually train a fine-tuned model through the playground if you want, you just need to supply the training set and pay a bit more, which may be a bit tricky depending on your resources though.

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stevenbrown375 t1_j2c122l wrote

Good to know. We have data scientists here that could implement something like this but they’re working on stuff that’s way too specific to train a model on good marketing practices just for my little department. All in all though, chatGPT has been really great as-is. I feel like I have a new work buddy, and I’m ravenously consuming every GPT-4 rumor I can find.

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10GigabitCheese t1_j2bjn5f wrote

One of the few subscriptions that would significantly add value to your day job, plus if it had access to live internet it would save hours on researching basic tasks you’ve never done before but don’t know the correct jargon for google.

It’s like a personal assistant or private tutor.

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drizel t1_j2als12 wrote

I'll definitely be one of those subscribers given a GPT-4 version.

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visarga t1_j2bhlqz wrote

Not just human preferences, but also task distribution. They can fine-tune the model specifically on these tasks to make it even better.

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SoylentRox t1_j2ckmtj wrote

And there's a bunch of obvious automated training it could do to be specifically better at software coding.

It could complete all the challenges on sites like leetcode and code signal, learning from it's mistakes.

It could be given challenges to take an existing program and make it run faster, learning from a timing analysis.

It could take existing programs and be asked to fix the bugs so it passes a unit test.

It could be asked to write a unit test that makes an existing program fail.

And so on. Ultimately millions of separate tasks that the machine can get objective feedback on how well it did on them, and so it can refine it's skills to be above human.

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Educational-Nobody47 t1_j2ddsyt wrote

It is extremely likely based on your point above that their investor meetings have gone completely nuts. There has to be so many funds offered at the door right now its ridiculous, people trying very hard to get in. Doordash isn't profitable, it runs off of investor funds on a future return. It honestly could stay free because it's an infinite flow of data coming into their coffers.

Sam Altman is on record saying "We have a soft promise to our investors that one day when we create AGI or something close to it we will ask it to help us monetize and pay investors back".

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