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Man_ofscience t1_jdj8knw wrote

Refs should be criticized for their performances. Coaches and players should be able to talk about that part of the game because officiating can play a role in the outcome. Refs are a protected species and coaches/players are fined all the time when they criticize a reffing crew. A ref should be in press conferences as well after games. They should get a voice to defend decisions as well and be asked about times in the game.

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GlassEyeMV t1_jdjb93t wrote

100% this.

I know it sucks, and “no one will want to be a ref” but they need to be held accountable somehow. I was a little league umpire for most of HS and a few years in college. Did everything but HS ball. I never had a call I couldn’t defend. Even if the defense was “it was quick, and that’s how I saw it in the moment.” You gotta be held accountable or else there’s no reason to have any standards of quality. I would talk to coaches and parents between innings. If they got nasty, I’d walk away, but most of the time, they wanted to know why a call was made. As long as I told them what I saw, they were happy.

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datspookyghost t1_jdjj9sg wrote

The only dispute I have is these refs may leave, but there will be plenty of refs willing to step up for NBA money and prestige. You sound like a good one.

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GlassEyeMV t1_jdjjw6n wrote

That’s my thought too.

I have a work friend who is an NCAA football and lax official. He and I talk about my umpiring days and how much I did enjoy it. He also knows I was a college football player. He’s trying to get me hooked up to do at least HS football and then maybe NCAA.

They need young people. I’m not “young” but I’m younger than most of the folks doing it now and it’s a fun side gig. I also announce local sports for extra cash, so this wouldn’t be too different.

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griffinhamilton t1_jdkbasa wrote

“No one will want to be a ref” is the most false Shit I’ve ever heard. There are so many people refereeing lesser leagues who would love the opportunity

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LordRobin------RM t1_jdl27jv wrote

And many of them never get the opportunity to move up because less competent refs are locked in by their union and never have to retire.

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Whosdaman t1_jdjdzfa wrote

It’s set up purposely to allow for them all to be bribed, blackmailed, and/or threatened to influence the games one way or another.

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SBLK t1_jdkd31w wrote

You are absolutely correct but it will never happen. The NBA views criticism of the officiating as a direct attack on the integrity of the game (as if them pretending like everything is normal when calls like in the DAL/GS game are made is not damaging).

The NBA HAS to have the appearance of impartiality and fairness or else it is the WWE. If fans are bitching they can just say that fans don't know the game well enough to make those accusations.... but when players and coaches are saying it, all they can do is say "shhhhhh!" and make it costly for those that do not keep in line.

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Man_ofscience t1_jdkpe0s wrote

Would be such a horrible thing if we had transparency in sports for once. Held everyone accountable. I think that’s integrity

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Porkchopp33 t1_jdjidwa wrote

Money well spent the way i see it i would eat that cost everyday to publicly shame bad officiating 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

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ButtholeCandies t1_jdkk55i wrote

I will give you the reason why this will never happen in one word:

Gambling

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Man_ofscience t1_jdkphjx wrote

Good point. Also love your username. I’m with my family and they asked what I laughed about. I told them your username and they all approve.

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ButtholeCandies t1_jdksoen wrote

That makes me way too happy. Something is obviously very wrong with me

Edit: A ref explaining themselves ruins the illusion of gambling. How do you bet on a point spread with refs admitting they can’t be bothered to rectify what they admit openly were wrong or inaccurate calls?

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Man_ofscience t1_jdkuc96 wrote

Nothing is wrong with you at all! You are appreciated among my family!

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r0botdevil t1_jdku4a0 wrote

>A ref should be in press conferences as well after games. They should get a voice to defend decisions as well and be asked about times in the game.

I like this idea.

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Man_ofscience t1_jdkuecp wrote

Right! Let’s have some integrity to the game and some transparency.

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Dewshbag41 t1_jdjkm3m wrote

I don't think Refs should be in press conferences after every game, but after a series sure.

They definitely owe the public and the players a post season debrief going over the biggest controversies of the year for sure.

Last thing we need is more divas in the NBA and giving the refs the spotlight is a way to turn the entirety of the sport into a laughing stock.

Basketball is a unique sport, it's unique in the sense that if someone entered the sport that absolutely dominated everyone, the sport would die. And I mean absolutely dominate, not like the bs "domination" that gets thrown around these days when one guy makes 70% from behind the line.

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Man_ofscience t1_jdjn0r5 wrote

Isn’t the NBA kind of a laughing stock anyway? The amount of blatant missed calls, dives, the lack of effort during the regular season/halfway through the playoffs. The sport isn’t enjoyable until the semifinals of the playoffs. I think sport in general needs more transparency across the board

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pokeroots t1_jdk9db0 wrote

every time I watch the NBA I spot multiple double dribbles and travels that don't get called in 5 minutes and turn it off

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Man_ofscience t1_jdkow1i wrote

Anytime someone brings up the nba it always brings me back to Westbrook taking 5 steps without dribbling. No call

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braize6 t1_jdlk2qv wrote

Which one? The only one I can think of that stands out, was when Westbrook took the inbound and started walking with it. Which he definitely did get called for

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ShadyCrow t1_jdkkv67 wrote

> Basketball is a unique sport, it's unique in the sense that if someone entered the sport that absolutely dominated everyone, the sport would die.

What do you mean here? How is that different than if it happened in another sport?

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Dewshbag41 t1_jdkmhqv wrote

Basketball depends on it's players to be dramatic and marketable. If a modern day Wilt Chamberlain showed up all the other basketball players would rally against him and probably quit, if the league didn't find a way to exile that player.

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ShadyCrow t1_jdkwt5t wrote

What are you talking about? Shaq was a force like that. Lebron is a much better player and more successful and dominant than Wilt.

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Dewshbag41 t1_jdkxg21 wrote

No okay see this is that bs dominance I was talking about.

I mean like if a superhero came down and started playing sports, we would watch them play pretty much any sport other than basketball because it would be total bullshit and noone would want to watch it. Kinda like how it is now where noone plays defense and guys like Ja Morant just score, gain notoriety, and then try to sell themselves outside of the sport moreso than in it.

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ShadyCrow t1_jdl0a6l wrote

> No okay see this is that bs dominance I was talking about.

So what's real dominance, then? Not winning as many games?

> Kinda like how it is now where noone plays defense

Haha. NBA defense has never been better than it is right now. All the rules favor the offense and almost every player can shoot. The schemes are far more complex than they were 20 years ago. You clearly don't like the game and don't know what you're talking about.

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Dewshbag41 t1_jdmbmts wrote

See but this is the bs thing I'm talking about, you guys say defence has never been better yet scores have never been higher and this is the decade of basketball where guys will literally just let people score and give 0 effort into block shots or stealing balls.

I think you guys know what your talking about but you just make shit up for some dumb reason. I played basketball more than any other sport in my youth, I know bad defense and lazy play when I see it.

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