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BowwwwBallll t1_j5drpm9 wrote

Reply to comment by SteffeEric in Hamby claims [WNBA Champ] Aces 'unprofessional' after trade by Responsible-Lunch815

You’d think if anyone would be understanding about maternity leave, it’d be the WNBA.

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djfl t1_j5fewxf wrote

They do understand. WNBA employees getting pregnant is bad for the WNBA, just like it is for every other business. The fact that it's a women's league doesn't change that. They're already struggling financially. Personally I love the irony here. Maybe men and patriarchy aren't the problem. Maybe reality is, and we all need to figure out how to navigate it together...or maybe it's just me.

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throw_every_away t1_j5fv47f wrote

Yes, this one instance here is good proof that there is no problem with “men or patriarchy.” That’s exactly the sort of astute observation I expect when I stumble upon r/sports. Very insightful.

*edited to add quotation marks for those who may have difficulty with reading comprehension

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djfl t1_j5g72xj wrote

> that there is no problem with men

Yes. And this is the kind of binary, this or that, on or off response that I expect from simple people in 2023. No nuance whatsoever. Just this or that. Carry on.

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throw_every_away t1_j5g80s5 wrote

I was quoting your comment, you absolute cabbage. Just for clarity, since reading obviously isn’t your strong suit, let me quote you directly:

> Maybe men and patriarchy aren’t the problem.

I’ve also added quotes to my original comment to further clarify what is going on here for you.

This is just the sort of hare-brained crap that I expect from simple people in 2023. No reading comprehension or self-awareness whatsoever. Just react without thinking. Carry on.

PS that last bit was also me quoting you, in case you missed that as well.

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djfl t1_j5gb5p2 wrote

"Yes, this one instance here is good proof that there is no problem with “men or patriarchy.”"

You said that, dripping with sarcasm. Perhaps if I'm speaking about "this one instance", that doesn't mean I'm speaking about everything in totality ie "there is no problem with".

There are problems with everything. Painting pregnancy and how we deal with it as a men/patriarchy problem (certainly as only one, like so many do on so many topics) is ridiculous thinking. And this example does highlight that. And other examples may highlight it more.

I did not say there are no problems with men or patriarchy ever anywhere...which is what you seem to be representing my position as. Do you agree with this or not?

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throw_every_away t1_j5h4edc wrote

You ever killed an animal before? Like say, squashed a cockroach, swatted a fly, hunted a deer? Maybe slaughtered a pig or a chicken? Shot a varmint?

Did you explain yourself to the animal?

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thened t1_j5eyn77 wrote

Team sports trade injured players all the time. While she may not be injured, her body is certainly going to go through some trauma that will put her in the hospital and leave her with life-long issues.

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thened t1_j5f0c6q wrote

Bone structure changing probably isn't the best thing for an athlete.

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electricgotswitched t1_j5f296s wrote

We see professional athletes come back from pregnancy all the time.

You are making it sound like she is guaranteed to be washed as a basketball player when she returns.

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thened t1_j5f2jxk wrote

No. Not at all. She was traded. Not banned from the sport.

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1bentpushrod t1_j5f01mh wrote

Not true in the least.

You obviously aren’t a woman or a man who knows women who have had kids.

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thegreatestajax t1_j5fkpej wrote

Why is it that every time someone on the internet starts with “so…” what follows is obviously bullshit?

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1bentpushrod t1_j5ffw9t wrote

You win the gold in mental gymnastics, incel.

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electricgotswitched t1_j5gfwcj wrote

I'm an incel because I haven't immediately dismissed her athletic abilities because she had/is having a baby?

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1bentpushrod t1_j5gxbcg wrote

You win the gold and are an incel because you are an incel who can’t recognize that women can have lifelong issues from pregnancy that have no effect at all on their athletic ability.

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wr3kt t1_j5f0dsd wrote

Absolutely false. Wtf.

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wr3kt t1_j5f4mou wrote

That is a completely different statement than your previous comment. My wife didn’t have complications during pregnancy but she developed easily triggered nausea after being pregnant. She now has a higher risk of heart attack due to pre-eclampsia also from pregnancy. Again - totally fine pregnancy without any major complications.

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electricgotswitched t1_j5f5nnr wrote

That sounds like a major complication. Again, OP indicated the trade was justified because it's a guarantee the player will develop health issues.

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wr3kt t1_j5f77pu wrote

There are many, many major complications that are entirely common due to pregnancy. None are by choice and none guaranteed. The trade justification is bollocks as well but that wasn’t what I was responding to. The nausea my wife experiences would definitely cause havoc on the court though.

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Good_nuff t1_j5esmmj wrote

Being pregnant is a medical condition. If you are an athlete and develop a medical condition that prevents you from playing, your team will probably get rid of you. It happens in men’s sports all the time. I don’t understand why being pregnant should be any different.

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JeffFromSchool t1_j5euucs wrote

Because unlike rare medical conditions that prevent them from playing, like with men, most women will get pregnant in their lives. Multiple times. Likely close together in time.

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Good_nuff t1_j5ev6u8 wrote

But medical conditions don’t prevent women from playing with men, the biological ceiling does.

I don’t understand your comment or what it has to do with anything.

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JeffFromSchool t1_j5f2f1b wrote

>But medical conditions don’t prevent women from playing with men, the biological ceiling does.

I don't understand what this statement has to do with anything.

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thegreatestajax t1_j5fkxt4 wrote

I think the closest male correlate is tearing an ACL or UCL. Happens routinely. Known recovery period. Most come back at or near full strength. These male athletes are generally not traded for purposes of replacement but are sometimes traded in the usual course of things.

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Catrocantor t1_j5e1ski wrote

Why though? They're a business like any other and a struggling one at that.

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Responsible-Lunch815 OP t1_j5e5xd1 wrote

Cuz its ran by women...so they would understand maternity leave

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TheMooseIsBlue t1_j5enoz9 wrote

It’s not necessarily run by women. It’s not like because it’s the W…NBA that it’s all women all the time. Plus, women can be profit-focused too and not really care about the players’ personal well-being. The NFL is run by people who don’t really seem to care that their sport badly damages all the players’ brains and shortens their lifespans. These people run a business and having players miss an entire season+ to have a baby is bad for business. The players union had to specifically negotiate this issue into their CBA, in fact.

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BostonBrandToots t1_j5f4l2k wrote

>Cuz its ran by women...so they would understand maternity leave

You must be young lol

No one hates women more than other women.

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Oklahoma_Kracker t1_j5epw17 wrote

They may understand it full well, but it may still not fit into their business plan as well as trading her for someone else. Both can be true.

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