PEVEI t1_j9mfzog wrote
Reply to comment by herewego199209 in Apple reportedly made a big breakthrough on a secret non-invasive blood glucose monitor project that originally was part of a 'fake' startup by dakiki
Reliable blood pressure without a cuff, without something in the artery... that strikes me as a much harder problem than blood glucose monitoring, and that's not an easy problem either.
Dredly t1_j9nbpq4 wrote
The issue, for diabetics anyway, is they need continuous monitoring (more or less), to whoever jumps in that space needs to figure out the battery problem. having your watch need to sit on a charger for 30 - 45 minutes a day will make it much less useful
DanielPhermous t1_j9ndj4d wrote
> The issue, for diabetics anyway, is they need continuous monitoring
Given the current method of monitoring is to stab yourself and test the blood, it clearly doesn't need to be continuous. Obviously, the more often you take readings, the better, but if there are battery issues, then Apple will find a balance that works.
That said... Lots of people use the Apple Watch for sleep tracking which means that, yeah, they have to charge their watch when they're in the shower and the like. It's a deal, sure, but it's not a big deal.
Dredly t1_j9ndv43 wrote
the current method for the vast majority is to use a sensor like a dexcomm unit that provide continuous updates, typically for 10 days in a row...
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most people utilize blood tests as a means of ensuring their unit is correct, not for monitoring anymore luckily.
ShellOilNigeria t1_j9ot61w wrote
> vast majority
You sure?
ziyadah042 t1_j9pzmoo wrote
It's not the vast majority. Insurance likes to be shitty about diabetes stuff. But a lot of them do.
guspaz t1_j9nm3th wrote
For diabetics that already wear a smartwatch, however, it will be a pure win.
Slippedhal0 t1_j9nmiv4 wrote
I mean I know it doesn't happen a lot anymore, but user replaceable batteries aren't that old that we've forgotten it exists. Instead of making batteriess larger, make them a little smaller and add a slot replacement mechanism.
Then you could make a AirPods style charging case that you can slot discharged batteries into, and always have a fresh one charged to use when the watch dies.
It likely wouldn't take off for people that can take off their watch at the end of the day, but people that need it, or truly cant part with it for whatever other reason, it seems like it would be a decent tradeoff.
Hi_Im_Ken_Adams t1_j9nvdkw wrote
Apple has no interest in making replaceable batteries. They literally glue the batteries and components together so that you can’t.
friedAmobo t1_j9p5h5f wrote
The batteries in iPhones are actually adhered using adhesive pull-tabs, which is the second most consumer-friendly method (the most would be a removable cover in the style of early smartphones). The hard part is that an iPhone battery replacement requires removal of the display and a bunch of other components, which can be time-consuming and difficult for someone who doesn't regularly do that kind of repair.
Hi_Im_Ken_Adams t1_j9ped3a wrote
I've replaced the battery in my iPhone before. I had to use a hairdryer to melt the adhesive. Perhaps those pull-tabs you mention are present in the newer iPhones?
friedAmobo t1_j9pjslw wrote
It's possible, though flipping through iFixit's guides (the 2G, 3G, 3GS, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, and 14 models), the first time adhesive pull tabs were referenced by them was in the iPhone 3G (the second-generation iPhone). They recommended against using the pull tabs in the 3G and 3GS, though. Unless Apple removed the pull tab at some point and then added it back in soon after (between the model generations I checked), it seems like iPhones have consistently had some form of a pull tab after the original iPhone.
What might have been possible is that the adhesive may have aged to the point where the pull tabs were no longer usable in your iPhone when you repaired it and the battery was essentially glued/adhered to the chassis at that point. Without the pull tabs (which can break when trying to use them), the battery adhesive basically becomes the same as the display adhesive, which also requires heat to remove.
Slippedhal0 t1_j9nxv18 wrote
right, but if it sold more products for a specific niche they'd probably think about it - after all a glucose measurement device is already niche
asdaaaaaaaa t1_j9ol2ek wrote
> but if it sold more products for a specific niche they'd probably think about it
*If it sold more products and provided more profit.
Doesn't matter if I sell 3 batteries for a total of 300$ when I can just force you to purchase an entire new device for 1,500$ in total every two years, along with additional services, contracts and stuff.
neuromorph t1_j9p9c03 wrote
We had off unit battery charging stations. No need to say air pod.....
Slippedhal0 t1_j9pz2sx wrote
I was using it as a reference for size and shape, and we were discussing apple.
neuromorph t1_j9q19zk wrote
you are talking about a replaceable watch batter? or phone?
Slippedhal0 t1_j9q39z8 wrote
? this whole discussion is about apple watches and their glucose monitor. The "airpods" mention was a portable charger station for replacable watch battery modules, the same way you chuck your airpods in the case to charge during the day.
cowings t1_j9p3str wrote
For the cost of medical devices these days, I would imagine that for some people buying 2 apple watches and switching them out would be cheaper than a 24-hr monitoring device.
Dont-know-you t1_j9rvmmj wrote
Get two watches to swap them. Problem solved.
ShaoFluff t1_j9zi7ay wrote
That doesn’t matter at all for me as a T1D, the charging thing at least.
76oakst t1_j9ncshj wrote
The Apple 🍎®️ solution - buy multiple watches
trancepx t1_j9novjt wrote
Clearly either ship two bands or two batteries
moon_then_mars t1_j9o13ox wrote
Maybe just buy two watches. Those blood sugar monitors are like $4000 each and an apple watch is like $350
trancepx t1_j9noqhd wrote
A band with a tiny air soft bladder, that could expand and then flatten in stages, would work, and its likely already patented.
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