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Freethinker9 t1_itejkhw wrote

I had a Fitbit and it notified me about high heart rate. It was about 150+ beats a minute after being around 110 to 120bpm. Thought it was a heart attack and almost called the ambulance. Wife took me to the er and it ended up being pneumonia.

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Ok_Good3255 t1_itemmqm wrote

How do you not know when you have pneumonia? Shouldn’t you be coughing or trouble breathing or something?

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bicbrownboi t1_itenykd wrote

Early stages of walking pneumonia can present with no symptoms at all or vague stuff like fatigue, light cough for 1-2 weeks, etc.

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ButtBlock t1_itfwc3v wrote

Yeah man. I felt fine until the day I realized I couldn’t climb a flight of stairs without stopping on the middle landing. As a previously healthy teenager. I was like… hmmm this is kind of fucked.

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ZForZimmer t1_itgcl1x wrote

I had a walking pneumonia when I was around 12. My only symptom was chest pain when I’d breathe while lying down

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algiuxass t1_ith8r87 wrote

Oh fuck I have that too

Like right now, I'm scared now because I just 2 days ago I took a trip and walked through a lot of people

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algiuxass t1_itheo00 wrote

It became much worse, it was barely noticable like 5 hrs ago

I'm worried, it quickly got worse, I coughed some small thick thing

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team-evil66 t1_itiveew wrote

Get to the doctor

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algiuxass t1_itiw62z wrote

I will if it doesn't get any better, might have to check my oxygen levels (oximeter)? I don't have fever anymore.

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NoTime4LuvDrJones t1_ithruur wrote

From webmd, seems like it takes longer for bacteria to cause it. Though they also lost other things that can cause it like viruses, mold. Not sure if those are shorter times to cause it. Does say fall is the season for walking pneumonia

> Symptoms generally start 15 to 25 days after you’re exposed to mycoplasma and slowly get worse over 2 to 4 days.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/walking-pneumonia

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algiuxass t1_ithvepm wrote

On yeah, forgot the important part, my mom contacted someone with COVID about two weeks ago, then I did have a fever and got better quickly with minor symptoms. Yeah, I might have pneumonia.

Thank you, I'll drink tons of water and maybe oximeter tomorrow morning.

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[deleted] t1_iteo6mp wrote

Could be walking pneumonia. Usually less severe but it can get worse.

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TheGreat_War_Machine t1_iteyy61 wrote

I think a better question would be how someone would not notice that their heart is beating 150 times a minute.

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deirdresm t1_itfsfp0 wrote

I laughed, but then I have POTS and regularly got up to 140 standing for a couple minutes before diagnosis+meds. Silly human standing wiring fail.

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windyorbits t1_itio8be wrote

Idk about everyone else but as an American, I’ll just be sitting or laying down and all of a sudden I’m like “oh shit, my heart is racing and my chest/neck areas feel a bit weird. Yes something is indeed wrong . . . Welp, it’s gone for now and I’m not dead, no need to get in debt by asking a person with a medical degree what might be the issue with my crazy fast blood pumper.

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johnsgrove t1_itflhsd wrote

It can go undetected. My watch warned me about a rapid heart beat and I hadn’t noticed. Not all that uncommon apparently

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MetalliTooL t1_itfeyt3 wrote

And how would not notice that your heart is beating extremely fast?

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FALCON_FACT_MAN t1_itg8m4x wrote

Interestingly, the New Zealand Falcon (Falco novaeseelandiae) is immune to all respiratory illnesses and blood disorders. Researchers confirmed this is due to the falcon's diet of possums and salmon, which are native to New Zealand. Even more astounding, it's wingspan ranges from 63 cm (25 in) and 98 cm (39 in) and its weight rarely exceeds 450 g (16 oz).

The mysteries of the falcon endure for eternity in our hearts and minds

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jabberwockgee t1_itfw54a wrote

I had pneumonia when I was younger and my parents took me to the hospital when I couldn't eat breakfast because my throat hurt too much. I don't think anyone 'knows' they have pneumonia because their throat hurts.

Then I had 'walking pneumonia' 4 or 5 years later and stayed home sick. My parents took me to the doctor that night and he said it was pneumonia but I was already recovering on my own.

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Jorycle t1_itgqc3d wrote

I had a fitbit and every day it thought I was doing intense cardio from 8-3, calculating my day's caloric expenditure as something like 3000. Sorry fitbit, just a typical day in the office as a dude with high anxiety.

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awkwardstate t1_itgcahn wrote

Dude, legit thought this too and went to the urgent care. Same thing, just pneumonia.

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Freethinker9 t1_itgcktr wrote

You say just pneumonia but you have to remember people die of pneumonia lol

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awkwardstate t1_itgd182 wrote

Meh, not as bad as a heart attack. I've heard those are pretty serious.

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Freethinker9 t1_itgdr1p wrote

Those are way more rare haha 😂 but 100% understand as I think I’m having a heart attack at least 3 times a week since my pneumonia

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Slammedtgs t1_item88o wrote

My wife was getting abnormal heart rate notifications and about two days later ended up in the hospital with a thyroid that was way over active.

The signs there from the watch was enough to trigger her going to get her labs done (issue was previously under control) which would have shown the issue but they didn’t read them until after she ended up in the ER.

Pretty great technology and cheap insurance too.

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geneticeffects t1_itef1zh wrote

I have thought about getting an Apple watch, so that I can administer my own ECG and determine if I have heart issues.

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_itekycs wrote

The Apple Watch can hint you to the existence of certain heart issues, it can't tell you that you DON'T have heart issues, it doesn't act as any sort of comprehensive screening.

I know you may know this but I think it's worth saying.

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messem10 t1_itf04c9 wrote

The only screening it does is for atrial fibrillation.

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kjartanbj t1_itinrkz wrote

And that works.. I felt the symptons and checked with the app and it confirmed it for me, I knew how it felt because I've had it before, got it confirmed at the hospital and got it fixed

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Cha-Car t1_itel6af wrote

Apple Watch has capabilities similar to a single-lead ECG. It’s better than nothing but it certainly isn’t the best.

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Slammedtgs t1_itemh21 wrote

My wife was having really high heart rate due to an over active thyroid. Watch 3 detected the change in heart rate and I used my 7 to do an EKG which showing the Afib condition. Enough of a benefit to upgrade her 3 based on that alone.

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The_Running_Free t1_itfbgu2 wrote

Pretty sure that’s the only thing it can screen for.

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ukezi t1_itfye36 wrote

Exactly, it can detect the pulse, so it can detect arrhythmia and every thing that can detect the pulse should be able to do that. For more interesting results, like actual ECG readings they just don't have the sensors.

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efvie t1_itgej7q wrote

It’s definitely better than the ECG that you don’t have.

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LikeAThermometer t1_itefpbn wrote

I think there's a device called Kardia or something on Amazon that does a heart scan of some sort. If you're into that sort of thing might be worth the Amazon search.

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smthngwyrd t1_itejzlq wrote

It has a fee anytime you want to send it to a cardiologist for a reading

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RoboKD t1_iteo2z3 wrote

It does, but if it comes back as something irregular, you really should get it checked. Although I think all mine were not really accurate, but I have an odd issue.

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smthngwyrd t1_itesnn9 wrote

A family member is doing an Apple Watch study through Yale or Cornell I think. He had to pay like $50 for the watch and taxes. They look at his heart date for several years.

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adfthgchjg t1_itfe6bo wrote

Yes, but there’s no need to ever do that. Atrial fibrillation traces are the easiest EKG abnormality to read for the layman, and Kardia will automatically flag afib traces.

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857477457 t1_itelcxv wrote

If you think you have heart issues go to a doctor.

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geneticeffects t1_itev1xk wrote

Great advice; Need money for that.
And therein lies the rub…

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LucidLethargy t1_itfs7kh wrote

Good thing Apple exists! They aren't greety shitholes at all! Go to the doctor.

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kjartanbj t1_itio7dc wrote

That depends on where you are from. if you are from a first world country(not including the USA) and many third world countries you don't have to pay anything

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rollingthestoned t1_itf150p wrote

It caught my first episode of atrial fibrillation. Scary but treatable. And I was able to detect the 2nd one before it caught it but the ECG app picked it up after I noticed the symptoms. Just be careful not to obsess on it. It’s easy to add to health anxiety with all the info at our fingertips.

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kjartanbj t1_itinzlr wrote

Didn't have the watch when I got my first in 2018, but it caught my second one that I got in August

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dlittlebear t1_itevrzc wrote

I get palpations from time to time and used the data to show a new dr and he gave me something that might help and told me if it’s palpating once every other beat I should take.

I only got the watch due to palpations.

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waiting4singularity t1_itff3wm wrote

im having my eyes on the asus vivowatch 5 for ecg and oxygen monitoring, but im guessing the moment i buy it, the 2 year old rumored LTE version is anounced

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LucidLethargy t1_itfs16a wrote

Lots of devices calculate this, including Samsung watches. Check out all the options.

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NearlyNakedNick t1_itehqma wrote

I realized I had PTSD partially because of my Samsung Active 2's heart rate monitor.

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zebrawarrior t1_itemjhi wrote

Wait, I was diagnosed with PTSD - can that cause a faster heart rate?

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NearlyNakedNick t1_itesiu0 wrote

Yeah, not all the time tho. When I have emotional flashbacks I may not even notice my thinking and behavior has shifted, but my heart rate always jumps up to 120-145. Now I've trained myself to check my heart rate when I'm not sure if I'm thinking straight. If my heart rate is up to that range I know I'm likely having a flashback and I need to find a way to ground myself and avoid making any decisions.

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bicbrownboi t1_itentdt wrote

The stress response to your triggers will likely spike your heart rate

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DevAnalyzeOperate t1_itejp54 wrote

I've seen somebody who caught a pretty severe medical issue early with a smartwatch. With the covid mRNA vaccines these smartwatches have been pretty useful directly after you get the shot because they can fuck with your ticker for a few days and it's good to keep an eye on 'er.

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afanoftrees t1_iteki9t wrote

Yup my heart rate was pretty high after my recent booster which sort of makes sense when your body is having an immune response

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eist5579 t1_itelfsl wrote

My heart rate felt a little elevated when I had COVID. But also, thinking about if COVID is fucking with my heart gives me anxiety which causes my heart to race which makes me think COVID could be fucking with it which makes it go faster… and repeat. I’m not sure the watch would work very well for me lol

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IndigoMichigan t1_item5yz wrote

I had a Fitbit. This was my exact problem. I thought my heart rate was high, which made me worry about my heart rate, which made my heart rate go up, which made me worry etc.

I got rid of it in the end. I was getting proper panic attacks over it.

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hatman_v4 t1_iteoe4j wrote

My heart rate went to 130 while i was bedridden for days with covid. Covid was the worst sickness I've ever had. Fever went to 104, I couldn't breathe, my body hurt agonizingly all over. It felt like the pain was in my bones. I wanted to die.

And I've been sick on and off ever since. It's like it's never fully went away.

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eist5579 t1_itepvgo wrote

Aww so sorry to hear that. I hope your body builds up it’s forces soon.

We’re you vaxxed or was it like pre-vaccines?

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hatman_v4 t1_iteubl5 wrote

I had the first shot but not the boosters. It probably would've been worse if I hadn't had the one shot.

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afanoftrees t1_iten3ai wrote

Yea there’s definitely some anxiety that can come into play with it which can make everything elevate but if you just wear and don’t look it at it you can get some pretty normal readings

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dpcaxx t1_iteelob wrote

Plot twist, it was also the watch that caused the cancer.

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bssgopi t1_iteivru wrote

If this was just for mindless fun, fine. Else, why would you say this?

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BisexualSunflowers t1_itemvdv wrote

I have a garmin that alerts me to a high heart rate (+100 bpm) when I’ve been inactive for 5 or more minutes. I have to take it off every single time I go to class or have a meeting. During Covid before I started anxiety meds I had horrible heart palpitations too. Got a 30 day heart monitor that came back with nothing luckily.

I still get the high heart rate alerts all the time though so maybe I need to ask for an increase in my (SSRI) dose.

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sl0wrx t1_iteorsv wrote

Yeah I had to stop wearing my fitbit because of my anxiety. I’ve had anxiety my entire life and it would get worse if I looked down and my heart rate was high. It was high because I was anxious and would get higher as I got more anxious looking at it 😅

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FalconBurcham t1_itfx9h4 wrote

Found my people. Haha Does Fitbit have the ability to turn off alerts? I turned off all heart rate alerts on my Apple Watch. I use the Zones app to track my intentional cardio sessions (it will nudge me if my heart rate is too high while exercising), but that’s it.

I manually checked my heart rate once while at the doctor’s office (I have serious health anxiety), and it was 135. My resting average at the end of the day is normally around 55. 65 if I’ve been busy. 75ish if it’s been stressful. But those big bumps of 135ish stress don’t give me useful info, so I keep alerts off. It all averages out at the end of the day. 🤷‍♀️

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AustrianReaper t1_itfc7tl wrote

Regarding your last point: If you feel fine with your current ssri dosage please don't increase it just because of heart rate spikes - they aren't antiarrhythmic and if you take more ssris despite feeling subjectively fine all you're doing is treating numbers, not yourself.

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BisexualSunflowers t1_itgbnj0 wrote

Good to know, I really appreciate your response.

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hahzbsjxbsbshfjcjcj t1_itgmnbj wrote

SSRI’s are junk I would get off of them if you don’t need them day to day. They are fine for short term relief in a stressful period of life, death in the family, divorce, break up etc. but they don’t need to be taken long term and it’s just another one of the pharmaceuticals that are wildly over prescribed in America.

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Algae-Ok t1_itekd9k wrote

I discovered that I had Afib with my Apple Watch this year and I am only 30

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amontpetit t1_itfc0dh wrote

Afib is surprisingly common, often goes undetected but also, thankfully, is often completely benign.

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kjartanbj t1_itioeef wrote

you would have to be seriously strange if you wouldn't notice that.

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Unique_Complaint_442 t1_itf53zg wrote

Is this a sneaky ad for Apple Watch?

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SavageCriminal t1_itf9vxf wrote

Yep. It’s all unverifiable. The author of the original article is completely off the radar online . 100% an ad

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realmastodon2 t1_itfny50 wrote

Even a lot of the accounts saying this watch Insert brand are selling smoke. Apps which track your heart rate aren't fully vetted by the medical community and as such they give out a lot of false readings. An EKG machine or modified heart rate app set up by a medical team are better indicators.

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DanielPhermous t1_itiurvd wrote

> Apps which track your heart rate aren't fully vetted by the medical community and as such they give out a lot of false readings.

The Apple Watch ECG and irregular rhythm notifications are approved by the FDA.

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mansta330 t1_itf37pj wrote

I have several chronic autoimmune conditions, and my Apple Watch has saved my butt on multiple occasions because it passively tracks so many things that I can use as a data set when my health goes sideways. For example, I was able to figure out that I had chronic sinus tachycardia because it was recording my heart rate and showing it sitting above 100 even when I was sitting at my desk or walking down the hall to the bathroom. It was also able to show my episodes of vasovagal syncope (Tl;dr: your heart rate going from 140 to 40 in 6 seconds makes you almost pass out) in a way that I could easily show my doctor to get more thorough tests and a beta blocker.

Now, with the new sleep tracking, I’ve realized that my respiratory rate while I’m sleeping is extremely slow (like not unusual to be 8 breaths a minute) and my deep sleep is… well less than 10 minutes is not unusual for me. So I’m in the process of figuring out whether all of that is due to sleep apnea, or it yet another dysautonomia condition we need to tackle.

I mean seriously, this tiny wrist computer is about as close as I can get to a scanner from Star Trek, and I genuinely don’t know how I would possibly keep track of all of my oddities without it.

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deer_spedr t1_itfcxwa wrote

If you record a video of yourself sleeping, with audio, this may unveil more useful information to yourself.

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mansta330 t1_itff7x8 wrote

Yeah, honestly I probably need another, more thorough sleep study. While my husband says I occasionally snore a little, he hasn’t seen me stop breathing or anything like that. He does say I “whimper” in my sleep though. We’d originally chalked it up to pain (psoriatic spondylitis) but now I’m wondering if it’s related to this breathing thing. My last sleep study I was told “you sleep remarkably well for everything you have going on”, which, gee thanks that doesn’t fix anything guys. 🙄

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xdaemonisx t1_iteum9t wrote

My cardiologist specifically recommended an Apple Watch. I’ve been happy with it.

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foundafreeusername t1_itex1e5 wrote

Interesting. A lot of cardiologists don't seem to be a fan of this technology. Supposedly because it has a lot of false positives sending people to the doctor that don't have any issues.

Maybe it improved by now

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xdaemonisx t1_itey631 wrote

He told me it was a lot less expensive than the Zio patch or Holter monitor and good enough to use to see if my SVT gets worse. When I had to wear those devices for 3 weeks (first the Holter monitor, then they switched to the Zio patch because it was more discreet) it was like, $1,500 I had to pay. The watch was only $300 and I can show him at my appointments. The watch could not diagnose me, and I have no idea what I’m looking for, but it seems to be worth it.

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mixmastakooz t1_itf0s0n wrote

My ER doctor friend likes them: she’d rather have a false positive than someone missing out on treatment but more often than not, it’s been something actionable.

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moofunk t1_itfz5tw wrote

> Supposedly because it has a lot of false positives sending people to the doctor that don't have any issues.

Worse than that, it shows an actual issue of sorts, but puts the doctor in a position for whether treatment should be done or not, because the patient may be better off with no treatment, because they are young and otherwise healthy.

The patient ends up demanding treatment (surgery) and ends up with a worse quality of life than before, or in very unfortunate cases, end up dying from complications.

What the watch is really doing, is gather a lot of data from mostly healthy, younger people, that don't suffer heart issues that require treatment, i.e. people that such data is normally not gathered data from, because they never needed to.

I don't think we can see the true benefit of the watch until 25 years from now, when we can start mapping out how the heart and cardiovascular system deteriorates as you age and what causes increased deterioration.

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LucidLethargy t1_itfsc44 wrote

I guess Apple was giving them a kickback, then, because this technology is not even remotely unique to Apple.

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xdaemonisx t1_iti34l5 wrote

It’s not a unique technology, but the main age group a cardiologist sees aren’t going to be the most tech savvy people.

I work in mobile phones, and Apple phones are by far the easiest to set up and use without fear of messing something up super terribly. The app for the watch and the health app come preinstalled on iPhones so you do not need to explain how to log in/make an Apple ID, go to the App Store, and download another app for the watch to work.

I can’t tell you how many people I help set up their hearing aids, FitBits, Garmins, and even the car radio Bluetooth. I can imagine the doctor was probably getting the same, and that isn’t his job. The Apple Watches are probably the easiest for him and his patients to use and understand without much set-up. I know it’s the easiest thing for me to set up since there’s barely anything to do other than pair them.

I barely had to do anything for the watch to take my SPO2, heart rate, and respirations per minute. It just does. I had a Samsung phone and watch before the recommendation and it would always fight with me on doing these things. It was time for a phone upgrade anyway and my Samsung watch battery was going.

He could also be sponsored, which I hope he’s getting a nice kickback if that’s the case. It worked on me, lol.

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LucidLethargy t1_ittdhix wrote

This is so weird... Apple phones are easier to set up? I've used both, and this is a silly thing to say. Do you mean they are the easiest to migrate to from other Apple phones? That's a two way street.

Samsung pre-installs their apps as well (I actually dislike that, for what it's worth). They also have a good deal more health features than Apple, were you aware of that? Ever try to get your blood pressure on an apple watch? You can't. Samsung watches also take readings automatically, just like Apple.

My grandmother got an iPhone recommendation for her hearing aid. She HATED it. She, wanted her old Android back. I helped her with her iPhone, and I agreed with her frustrations. Modern iPhone's are a mess, they aren't simple like used to be.

In the end, they're all shit, though. Apple is not innovating, and neither is Android. Stop trying to sell people on one brand.

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ChosenBrad22 t1_itemztc wrote

I feel like I would immediately notice if I was chillin and my heart was pumping over 120+ a minute.

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Deep_Charge_7749 t1_iterfp9 wrote

Smoke a joint and watch your heart rate. Lol

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Ridgeburner t1_itghfnu wrote

This just adds to my already overactive anxiety and paranoia every time I do it 😂

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Ronux t1_itgrqmm wrote

I go out of my way to remove my Garmin every time I smoke weed. For whatever reason watching my heart rate go up on my watch while high makes my anxiety go into overload.

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Glitchbot t1_itg2sm7 wrote

I had a Samsung Galaxy Active 3 that kept saying I was in AFib after I exercised. Went to a cardiologist and they hooked me up to a monitor for 4 weeks. Even though the watch detectected AFib 3 more times, the real heart monitor didn't see anything like that. Wondering what the real false positive rate is on these things. Also, would be interesting to compare between manufacturers.

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DanielPhermous t1_itg8ryi wrote

I haven't heard of any false positives on the Apple Watch - and you know if there was, it would be a huge deal on the internet, probably with a -gate suffix.

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[deleted] t1_iteyqzc wrote

Do all apple watches check this or have these capabilities or is o my internet the newest model?

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GTdspDude t1_itf6aqr wrote

It’s been a feature for several generations, started with series 3 and we’re on 8 now

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[deleted] t1_itfdi44 wrote

Thanks for responding despite my horrible auto correct! Gotta start using mine more often.

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[deleted] t1_itf73ji wrote

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jhaluska t1_itf9vov wrote

It's normal for your heart to slow when sleeping, but if it's going really low you might not be getting enough blood flow / oxygen at night. If you don't wake up rested, or have issues exercising I would worry. Otherwise bring it up to your doctor at your next checkup.

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DanielPhermous t1_itg8w6c wrote

See a doctor. The Apple Watch knows when you're asleep and should expect a slower heart rate.

Either way... better safe than sorry.

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Abedeus t1_itfyuor wrote

I personally had my smartwatch help me catch an issue with my new hypertension meds, when I was feeling lightheaded and decided to check my pulse. It was borderline 50, when normally it would be 70-80. At times dipping below.

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HaciMo38 t1_itg0sfs wrote

I bought my dad a series 6 in 2020 and within 2 weeks the watch started to send notifications about "unusual heartbeat rhythm" (I don't remember the exact wording).

My dad went to a cardiologist and the doc told him he had atrial flutter. We had absolutely no idea.
Amazing piece of tech for sure.

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CaptainUSA76 t1_itgf3e7 wrote

I wish I could get one. Alas money is everything.

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TommyTuttle t1_itijz0x wrote

Talk to your landlord about why the rent is so damn high. That’s where your money is going. A $400 watch is indeed a luxury item but when rent is $2000 a month you start to wonder why a measly $400 should even matter anymore 💁‍♂️

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Substantial_City4618 t1_itgj562 wrote

I had a consistent high rate after a Covid shot. I kinda freaked, but apparently my fever caused my heart to pump faster to spread heat to of your extremities like a radiator.

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somenewguy12345 t1_ithyyn5 wrote

meanwhile docs: STOP CHECKING YOUR HR ITS ANXETY THROW IT AWAY

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v-1-6-e t1_itfc2zp wrote

Apple's ECG is as good as any other premium heart rate monitor on smart watches. Since it's a single lead ECG it doesn't add much value to the heart rate monitor. This is just another advetorial

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leemax2022 t1_itfjezi wrote

seeing this advert all over reddit. apple has reached new lows

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HerbHurtHoover t1_itgcnqj wrote

Am i the only one who feels like we are being drip justifications to allow apple to spy on our health data?

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CormacMccarthy91 t1_iteemaz wrote

I hope these ads are expensive as hell.

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codars t1_itehrmz wrote

Apple sold $300,000 worth of Apple Watches in the time it took you to type your comment.

Edit: The number’s exaggerated but you get the idea.

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banme5lol t1_iteftjg wrote

2014 called. It wants its news back.

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Yarddogkodabear t1_iteezbt wrote

Convincing people to strap on chips and get wired up for pre-emptive medical preventable medicine.

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PureBigStick t1_itegs06 wrote

Don’t you carry your phone around with you everywhere? The watch doesn’t stab you or anything

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75thAltToday t1_iteh2np wrote

Bonus! It reports hourly to insurance companies, to document "pre-existing conditions".

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Junior_Interview5711 t1_itejy9a wrote

Don't promote this

The average parent will start buying apple watches for their 6 year old

And might figure out a way to force cities to hand them out for free

Then apple starts to increase the already high price

Natural selection does suck

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EmbeddedEntropy t1_itevqer wrote

I think someone’s off their meds.

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Junior_Interview5711 t1_itf75b9 wrote

Nah

Think about it, apple has a huge market

But it needs more sales, because it has a 2 trillion "market cap"(not really the right phrase, but the average person understands that, kinda) so it develops a watch that did save a person's life, but the watch is 600 bucks or you can buy a very comprebale one for 100-200, or apples, that only works with a 1200 dollar phone, and they put out stories that promote the life saving act, get a bunch of people to start pressuring congress to buy the watches, to "save their lives"

How much do you think they would sell the government the watches for

The company hit a ceiling, in the sales sense, they can only sell stuff to current customers, but in order for the stock to move, they need new ones, 1 customer switching to Apple ain't shit, but a whole government buying them for the public

That's a game changer

I'm fully aware my opinion reveals my tin foil hat

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visceralintricacy t1_itfelkg wrote

Rofl, congress won't even get you guys decent single payer health care. It's not just one watch, they'd need to wear them forever, and need an iPhone...

There's far cheaper ways to save many more lives.

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