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UnkindlyDisagree t1_ixus38p wrote

Reply to comment by OccasinalMovieGuy in From post-truth to post-reality: the future of disinformation by Wagamaga

Facts don't exist.

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Nine-Eyes t1_ixv7yz5 wrote

>Facts don't exist.

You say that like it's a fact. Also, try driving with your eyes closed sometime. I think you'll find that the world outside your vehicle exists as fact regardless of whether you believe in it. The only difference is bullshitting yourself that facts don't exist.

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nerd4code t1_ixvghfg wrote

I mean, it might not end up proving anything; dead people tend to exhibit limited ability to introspect.

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unresolved_m t1_ixva3rp wrote

According to Donnie Trump and his followers, for sure.

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UnkindlyDisagree t1_ixvm5d8 wrote

According to Wittgenstein too.

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unresolved_m t1_ixvprql wrote

This?

"“I want you to realize that when I speak of a fact I do not mean a particular existing thing, such as Socrates or the rain or the sun. Socrates himself does not render any statement true or false. What I call a fact is the sort of thing that is expressed by a whole sentence, not by a single name like ‘Socrates.’ . . . We express a fact, for example, when we say that a certain thing has a certain property, or that it has a certain relation to another thing; but the thing which has the property or the relation is not what I call a ‘fact.”

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