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threeiem t1_iy9lz4e wrote

Every product on Amazon

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Smtxom t1_iyak0rv wrote

But XXLPEJ is a stand up company. Their products are all 5 star!

-cashes check

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ffdfawtreteraffds t1_iyblobp wrote

LOL. The letter scramble name is perfect. Once they get a bunch of 1-star reviews for their phone cases, they'll become DFUYYTL.

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2Mona94 t1_iyayxxe wrote

Amazon is flooded with misleading inflated reviews. The rebate key program was a big eye opener for me.

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not_anonymouse t1_iybfjf2 wrote

What's the rebate key program?

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AlSweigart t1_iybhp8e wrote

I'm guessing it's some form of getting a card with your order that says, "If you rate this 5 stars, we'll give you half off your next purchase" or something like that. Real scummy.

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londons_explorer t1_iyc4m3k wrote

More like "If you rate this 5 stars, we'll give you a full refund, an extra $10, and you get to keep the product for free"

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SpecificAstronaut69 t1_iyb22pr wrote

I bought a USB cable from Amazon.

It came in a box, the volume of which was taken up by a 40% USB cable, 5% packing material, and 55% literature instructing me on how to MAKE DOUBLE PLUS EXTRA AUSPICIOUS THANK YOU GOODLY AAA+++ 5-STAR REVIEW.

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ineedabuttrub t1_iy9rm08 wrote

Alphabet had a 2022Q3 earnings of $69 billion. A $9.4 million dollar fine to them is the same as fining someone making $100k per year $3.41. Literal pocket change.

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ShankThatSnitch t1_iy9wyqs wrote

The math checks out.

I see it as, Google had to spend a tiny bit more on their marketing budget, essentially.

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DrSpreadOtt t1_iyaoc1o wrote

They had to spend $0.30 more on their marketing budget to be exact. Guess some heads will roll for this outrageous blunder. $0.30 is a lot of money.

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outerproduct t1_iyaj34y wrote

I was about to say, they probably paid less in marketing haha.

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CocaineHammer t1_iyechdy wrote

Cost of doing business should put me in charge of fines they'd soon stop there shady stuff.

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ShankThatSnitch t1_iydrodi wrote

9,400,000 ÷ 69,000,000,000 = 0.000136

0.000136 × 100,000 = 13.623

13.623 ÷ 4 = 3.406

Take a moment and re-read the comment, and try and do your math again.

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squarefan80 t1_iy9yi2p wrote

which is why these fees need to be percentage in nature and not fixed; be it yearly earnings or held assets. make the ‘cost of doing business’ actually debilitating so they actually have to consider their actions.

yeah. pipe dream, i know…

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dizorkmage t1_iya5hwz wrote

I'm just tired of pretending, bring on the corporate overloards, least then I'll get my blade runner sex robot, some cyber punk implants and waste some xenomorphs in space.

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BaronMostaza t1_iycre90 wrote

Hope you like used implants and refurbished sex robots from the scrap heap because that's the best you might eventually afford

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forgotten_tomato t1_iybf2h4 wrote

you are asking lawmakers punish the very orgs that donates money to them. this is all a show for us plebs

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squarefan80 t1_iydd781 wrote

yeah. gods forbid some reason, common sense and decency in lawmaking.

only half /s

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forgotten_tomato t1_iyebbiy wrote

It's depressing to think about. The monkeys at the top exploit and uses the monkeys down below for their own benefit.

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TheThingsWeMake t1_iya8mxt wrote

In this case it just makes this method of marketing non-viable, so in theory does what the fine is meant to. But yeah I'm not so naive to think they won't just do some other shady trick next time.

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bernyzilla t1_iyba8gq wrote

The real question is if they gained more profit off the sales that those bribes generated. If that's the case, then this paltry fine is just a good investment from Google's perspective.

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spookje t1_iybedhf wrote

Yeah. Unfortunately, Google is the kind of company that just has a budget category for this kind of stuff. They literally have a yearly budget item for paying millions of EU fines to deal with GDPR violations as well. Hell, this Pixel one probably comes out of the Pixel marketing budget to begin with.

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Oscarcharliezulu t1_iybsks5 wrote

But isn’t this just advertising - advertising is paying people to say good things. What they need to do is mark them as ‘ads’

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RejZoR t1_iycovo6 wrote

Basically they paid "advertisers" 9.4 million bucks. That's not that much.

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CyndaquilTyphlosion t1_iyd5g8z wrote

I disagree with the maths, personal pet peeve since affordability is not a linear scale. I'd say it's less than even half that.

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daviEnnis t1_iya2pzm wrote

I don't think they'll view it like that - was the marketing they received worth whatever they paid, plus 9.4mil? Not every crime is supposed to come with a crippling punishment.

And honestly, who believes all those podcast hosts and their scripted line or two about how they use x product, and theyd be using it even if they weren't a sponsor?

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PM_ME_COOL_RIFFS t1_iy9qusn wrote

Damn and I've been telling people I like my Pixel for free like an absolute sucker.

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HumanContinuity t1_iy9sxdz wrote

Dude, me too. I even tell people about losing it while kayaking off the coast and using the last gps signal to search for it and finding it, still on, after being dragged through tide pools for hours.

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robdiqulous t1_iyb88x9 wrote

Shit! You did it again!

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HumanContinuity t1_iyb8u2j wrote

Gotta add that to the invoice.

That reminds me of that story of the guy who succeeded in defrauding Google and a few other tech companies by just sending invoices, which they just paid without investigating for a while.

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robdiqulous t1_iybadz2 wrote

I literally had a scam email today that was pretty convincing, that was asking me for all of our current AR. They could have done exactly that with actual legit invoice amounts.

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w2tpmf t1_iybcl0q wrote

Mine fell out of my pocket while hopping off of a water taxi onto Lovers Beach in Cabo. I spent a half hour diving in looking for it on the bottom of the ocean before giving up. 10 min later the next group of people getting dropped off a guy reaches down and picks my phone up out of the water.

It's still kicking today more than a year later.

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matt6pup t1_iy9uiwq wrote

Yeah, I still have the 3a and it runs just as smoothly as the day I got it. I'm totally a pixel fanboy.

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diox8tony t1_iya9rni wrote

And I literally can't tell the difference between the pixel 1, 3a, 4a, 5a...all practically the same to me(I only buy because screen broke or battery won't charge). Sad the 6a won't have audio jack...

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PepsiMangoMmm t1_iyasfov wrote

So odd they're removing the audio jack. Pixel 2 didn't have a headphone jack (what I'm on rn) but my old phone (4a) did. I wonder why they're getting rid of it again

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Kufat t1_iyb1axe wrote

They kept it longer in the budget series. OnePlus did the same thing (N series vs the 9/10/etc.)

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dishie t1_iybd4qn wrote

I just upgraded recently from the 3a to the 7 because they are no longer putting out security updates for anything older than a 4. Just something you may want to look into.

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joeblo987123 t1_iybl41o wrote

Well aside from the lack of any security updates since spring....

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LotharLandru t1_iya7u7l wrote

The call screening feature is amazing I love it so much

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AppleJ33 t1_iy9uo6i wrote

I loved my pixel 2, probably my favorite cell phone behind my original Razr. Google, send me money!

I have a Pixel 6 now, I have no complaints at the moment. I am sure I would LOVE it with a little help wink wink nudge nudge google

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iiztrollin t1_iyavd9m wrote

I've been telling people that sense the 3 and I worked in wireless, didn't really change many peoples minds. I think over 5 years I sold 5 pixels and 3 of them people wanted and 1 was returned.

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user17302 t1_iyb55us wrote

Man I had a 3a and loved it. Got a 4 and it bricked the day I touched down to my deployed location and had to emergency buy a iPhone on base and now I’m sucked into the Apple ecosystem. I was hoping the Google watch would bring me back but I can’t seem to find a good reason to switch back over

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jezwel t1_iybcp4x wrote

Loved my Pixel 4, until it died 1 month after the warranty expired. No warnings, no bad handling - out it on my bedside table when I went to bed, next morning it was a brick.

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erix84 t1_iyce6eu wrote

I kinda miss my 4a! The fingerprint sensor on the back was so much better, and my battery lasted at least 25-30% longer!

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DamonFields t1_iy9q6hk wrote

Where they went wrong was buying endorsements without the DJ’s actually having the product to endorse. Google could have saved 9 million dollars if they would have supplied each endorser with the product. Cheap greed never was very smart.

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Mythril_Zombie t1_iybav3d wrote

>Where they went wrong was...

"wrong". lol

They made way more than 9 million dollars doing this. This tiny infinitesimal nothing of a fine is like getting a 5 dollar ticket for jaywalking.

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drones4thepoor t1_iybbbg6 wrote

Yea, but management won’t see it this way. Employees lost the company ~10mil as opposed to less than $10k.

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peon47 t1_iycc6xa wrote

Employees won't get the blame for this. If they're clever (and I assume head of marketting for Alphabet/Google is clever) they'll blame it on the process.

"Yes, this broke the law, but our marketting department aren't lawyers, and the process wasn't in place at the time to run influencer outreach by our legal department. I instituted a new policy so this can't happen any more. You gonna fire the guy who fixed this?"

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Brandonmac10x t1_iycq7vz wrote

“I love my google pixel. I can surf the web, check my email, manage my music, and take pictures from one device. With google to organize it there’s nothing I can’t find. I’d be lost without this phone.” -sent from my iPhone

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ShankThatSnitch t1_iy9wgmu wrote

"OH nooo!....anyway" - Google.

So basically Google had to spend on extra $9.4 million on their marketing budget, is what the headline should be.

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silqii t1_iya6nm6 wrote

It sounds like they could’ve sent a mil max in product and saved 8 mil on marketing. So they were basically idiots wasting money for no reason. I wonder how many other ways google wastes money like this.

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diox8tony t1_iyaa1ad wrote

Or.....they almost saved 8 mil like they do 100 times per year, just this time they got caught and had to fork the extra 8mil

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RnDanger t1_iy9lh31 wrote

Is this like getting suspended from school because you didn't show up?

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kingallison t1_iyaep62 wrote

I just wanna know where does that money go and how does it compensate the consumer who was harmed by the bogus endorsements?

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muckpucker t1_iyaix3w wrote

Hey internet stranger, I'm with you. I bought the next generation of Pixel phone because the Pixel 4 was supposed to be so great, now I find out that was all just lies. Will I see a nickel of that money? I doubt it. All that being said, I like my Pixel 5 Even though the power jack is dead and the speakers output is weak.

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General1lol t1_iyc34gq wrote

I upgraded to a Pixel 4 from an iPhone SE (2016), so my bar of being impressed were very low. While the Facial Recognition, camera, and screen were literal heaven on the Pixel 4, I suffered too many app freezes and crashes along with the ridiculously short battery life to make me really like it. I upgraded to an iPhone 12 Mini as soon as it was released and never looked back.

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NodeShot t1_iyag2ob wrote

I liked the pixel 4 tho (not paid but if they give me money I'll take it)

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letsbefrds t1_iyb6rh3 wrote

Seriously the facial unlock was pretty neat, a lot better than my p7

If they had a larger battery I probably would have kept it

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NodeShot t1_iyb8hzx wrote

For a 300$ phone: Good storage size Amazing camera quality Easy to use and very sturdy; I must've dropped mine 100+ times and it never broke.

I have a pretty normal life so I always have access to a charger, but I have to agree the battery seems to die pretty quick

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HalfPointFive t1_iybde5e wrote

It was great. But it did not last. I had one that died under warranty and one that died out of warranty. Same issue. Screen connector.

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NodeShot t1_iybex8y wrote

I've had mine for years and it works great!

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IvankaPounder t1_iy9od5h wrote

Hope they take cash, google has over 116 billion dollars in cash and cash equivalents as of the end of the last quarter.

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wraglavs t1_iyagex7 wrote

They didn't pay me, and I like my pixel 4. I feel left out. :(

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magenk t1_iy9ptma wrote

I like my Pixel 4 🥹

Apple makes good products, but I don't have the time to invest in 2 ecosystems, 2 interfaces. My old Macbook Pro runs Windows.

Also, 80% chance Google wins the AI race.

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GhostalMedia t1_iy9sajq wrote

I’m confused about the two ecosystem comment. You’re using windows and android. That’s two? No?

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magenk t1_iy9wmnd wrote

Google integrates better with Windows. I have my Google Drive on my PC and a lot of Google stuff is Chrome/browser based vs proprietary app based iOS stuff. I use Chrome, Gmail, and Google Maps. If I want to transfer files to my PC, I just plug in a USB cable.

I also don't like the iCloud, iTunes interface. I already have like 50 programs I have to use every day, I don't need an Apple specific GUI especially since there are no iOS apps or programs I ever need. iOS Sketch for web design used to be pretty cool, but it wasn't available for PC. Now everyone is using Figma because it's system agnostic and browser based as well.

Mac makes great hardware, but not enough for the hassle of using it and the cost. Phones outlast security updates anyway. I could see getting a Macbook Pro because they last forever, but I'd be using Boot Camp to stick Windows on it.

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GhostalMedia t1_iy9z27h wrote

> Google integrates better with Windows.

Chrome, Drive, and all of those Google products exist on MacOS too. Google’s campus is littered with MacBooks, so it’s definitely a platform that they spend a lot of attention on. Last time I was there, literally everyone I was meeting with rolled in with a Mac. 😆

I don’t have any problems syncing my Android phone with my Mac. It’s basically exactly the same as Windows.

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magenk t1_iya3uu5 wrote

Macbook Pros are the best laptop you can buy, but for 99% of the global population a PC is going to make way more sense.

I work with devs in a lot of different countries where a Macbook costs like 3 months average salary, and the idea that everyone should get a Mac to do design work makes zero sense and always struck me as very elitist/status symbol. I abhorred the Mac as industry design standard back in the day and having to use Sketch. Young professionals and college kids pirated Photoshop forever because they were broke. Now everyone needs a $2000+ laptop just to for design work? Fuck that!

All you're telling me is that rich people buy Macbooks and that young people in those industries are status conscious. Most young people should be buying cheap Android phones, but the majority buy $1000 iPhones. People aren't logical.

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GhostalMedia t1_iyamssp wrote

I’m just saying that “integrates better with windows” isn’t true. The experience for an Android / Google user on MacOS is basically the same as it is on Windows.

Buy whatever PC works best for you and your budget.

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QuestionableAI t1_iy9wejn wrote

fucking chump change ... do a fine that actual means something ... this is like charging me 25 cents for not cleaning my room when I was 10 years old. Fugnothing.

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Hairy-Medicine8173 t1_iyakktw wrote

Cost of business. This fine is exceedingly low for a company this large

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Cyrus_rule t1_iyajzjx wrote

They have to now pay some more

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swaite t1_iyca1oz wrote

Isn’t that exactly how celebrity endorsements work? Pay the well-known person to hawk your product. This “fine” is absurd and just more cheap advertising for Google.

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aintbroke_dontfixit t1_iycfqn5 wrote

So basically like every product shilled by social media influencers?

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d4vinder t1_iy9mimn wrote

My bank account hasn’t seen any such transaction from google. When should I expect the payment to drop?

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corkedcoffeemug t1_iy9t2k8 wrote

so will the money go to those affected by this predatory marketing?

or like, to the government never to be seen by consumers

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HuntingGreyFace t1_iy9v8bs wrote

well thats small enough to file at the back of operating costs

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tuddrussell2 t1_iy9vr04 wrote

Amazon, Rings of Power will cost them?

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Apartment213shit t1_iya21ow wrote

Honestly after having the first one I now understand how they ended up making more

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goldfaux t1_iyaam4f wrote

The pixel 4xl was my favorite pixel.

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DukeOfGeek t1_iyabl3m wrote

People can do that? Just get on the internet and lie about products for money?

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succubus-slayer t1_iyaeuxj wrote

Was it really that bad?

I remember years ago really enjoying the HTC.

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ofimmsl t1_iyafw9i wrote

All this did was add $9million to their advertising costs

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ughwithoutadoubt t1_iyahvei wrote

Question?? Who does the lawsuit money go to?

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Groperofeuropa t1_iyaqkao wrote

They couldn't pay me enough to ever say I like my Pixel 7 Pro. Dumbest financial decision I made this year.

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instantur t1_iyarge9 wrote

I can’t be that hard to find people to say they like a product right?

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hurl9e9y9 t1_iyat9lq wrote

I actually did like the Pixel 4 (pay me). It was the last phone I had that fit in my palm which I could still tap everywhere with my thumb without shifting. It was the perfect size. Even the non-"pro" models are so damn big now. I don't need a mobile movie theater or gaming rig, I just want something that fits in my pocket that I can whip out a text on or check something on Google real quick. Why is that such a foreign idea now?

The only thing I didn't like about it was no fingerprint sensor. It was the in between model after they went away from capacitive sensors on the back and before in screen fingerprint readers. So it only worked on face unlock, which was a little shaky at the time but good enough. But wouldn't you know, we had a global pandemic as soon as I bought it, so I had a mask on when I was out and had to PIN unlock every single time.

But I would absolutely deal with all of that again just to have a reasonably sized phone. And it was orange. Orange!

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andrew899876 t1_iyau6xf wrote

My favourite acronym is i18n. The audacity to put the first letter then sat 18 letters here then last letter.

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PotentialFly1450 t1_iyau766 wrote

I like the Google pixel 4, what a great device. Oh. Em. Gee.

Please send cheque immediately, Google. Rent is due tomorrow.

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BarrySix t1_iyavo3w wrote

I have a pixel phone. I'll say I like it for nothing. It's a great phone. There is literally nothing an iPhone is better at but somehow iPhones weight a whole lot more.

Google shouldn't need deception to sell a great product.

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Bryllant t1_iyaw3pe wrote

So who actually gets the money?

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FartKnocker4lyfe t1_iyaxd7k wrote

Doesn’t every single social media influencer get paid to tell people they love a product?

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atkhan007 t1_iyaxnou wrote

Wait ... I could be making money by saying it.

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UnderGlow t1_iyaz8vy wrote

Yo, can we like, multiply these fines by 1000??

10 million is chump change for these companies.

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thingandstuff t1_iyazhuj wrote

I’m so confused. When did this become illegal? People have been doing this forever.

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SnakeSkinBots t1_iyb3sl0 wrote

I like Pixel 4 and I am 100% human

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CoNoelC t1_iyb488p wrote

To whome?

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clickwir t1_iyb4p48 wrote

Wait... There are endorsements all the time. How is this different and how does this decision affect other endorsements?

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zombiefied t1_iyb8dot wrote

About 2.8 seconds of ad rev…

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HalfPointFive t1_iybd7c8 wrote

Can I still get money for saying I like the pixel 4?

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dmillerksu t1_iybdx2x wrote

Why is this wrong? The people on those drug commercials typically don’t have those diseases and never too the drugs

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cereal7802 t1_iybgq4s wrote

Is that not allowed? My apartment complex gave me a deal with half price rent for first month and no security deposit in exchange for a google review in 2015. Now they are offering "A chance to win a gift card" for proof of google review. seems like the same shit to me.

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jimbo92107 t1_iybh7yv wrote

Only $9.4 million? If I were Google, that pittance wouldn't even get me to stop bribing people.

Send a Google executive to prison. That'll stop their crimes for real.

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ascii122 t1_iybk655 wrote

I would have been cheaper to pay me 1 million not to say I liked the Pixel.. save some cash Google DM me

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Jorycle t1_iybkgx8 wrote

Every company that receives any kind of incentive to boost any product or service or whatever should have to say in big letters "WE WERE PAID TO SAY THIS." Make the fines big enough that companies are afraid of the consequences.

Like 95% of the shit you see on the internet would be plastered with "WE WERE PAID TO SAY THIS."

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infinitum3d t1_iychk2v wrote

I have never known anyone to advertise for free.

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Jorycle t1_iycpw9t wrote

Sure, but it's not about identifying whether an ad was paid for, it's about identifying ads. People are understandably not aware that most of what they see is an ad. Most product reviews are ads. Most "best X" articles are just ads. Most news articles about products are ads. Even on social media, a non-zero number of people's posts are just ads. Some of this is illegal, but even then the consequences are so low that we end up with articles like the above where Google pays next to nothing for the infraction.

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infinitum3d t1_iydkf9m wrote

Agreed. But my rule of thumb is to assume that everything I read/hear is someone trying to influence me. Ergo: everything is an ad

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Slugity t1_iybn48i wrote

Yeah, but who sees the money....?

All these big bills, haven't seen 1 person yet saying 'oh I got 10k'

All just legal bills

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xpluguglyx t1_iybnsar wrote

They are called live reads, they have been around forever, every radio DJ and podcaster does them. Google just distributed the live reads scripts and paid for them before they supplied the phone. It is stupid because nobody actually believes their favorite personality actually uses the crap they shill, we know it is just to help pay for the talent.

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Ordinary_Cap_5846 t1_iybo6s3 wrote

Don’t they just use AI to fake positive reviews now?

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downonthesecond t1_iybtdmz wrote

>The lawsuit states that radio personalities were used to promote the handset, with nearly 29,000 "deceptive endorsements" made during that time.

Sounds like Google wasted a lot of money.

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hepazepie t1_iybvmnb wrote

9.4 million is not an apropriate fine for a company like alphabet. I bet they are having good laughs over there

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AnthropomorphicFood t1_iybyxlt wrote

Do as I say not as I do. Oh the hypocrisy when they’ve been after fake reviews in the Play Store.

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-JudgeFudge- t1_iybzxv8 wrote

I hated my pixel 4. It never worked properly and they tried to replace it with a refurbished device. It made me drop everything google and switch to Apple

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qqanyjuan t1_iyc2vv0 wrote

Idk why this is illegal but ok

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BytecodeBollhav t1_iyc53s5 wrote

Basically, Google payed radio hosts to endorse their phone, but they didn't actually use the phone. I'm not sure if Google didn't provide samples or if the people just didn't do it, but basically, some people got payed to endorse a product they hadn't used, they did, now both parties are in hot water.

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qqanyjuan t1_iyc5ii9 wrote

Ahh I see, thanks for explanation

But still not sure why it’s illegal? Those parties have free speech, no obligation not to lie. Google can pay to advertise what they want, no? Curious which law it violated

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BytecodeBollhav t1_iyc62h2 wrote

False advertisement. I'm not American so I'm not sure exactly how the laws on false advertisement look, but if you read the article, this is the cited violation.

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iamkurru t1_iyc3u80 wrote

I liked it for free!

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Straddle_E_Do t1_iyc5yqy wrote

Where do the fines go? Who actually gets the 9.4 million dollars?

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infinitum3d t1_iychb1k wrote

13.9 billion dollars in profits in 2021.

9.4 million is nothing to them.

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metaaxis t1_iycq5wh wrote

Don't be evil

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1BigNephilim t1_iyd1di8 wrote

Damn. I'm actually on my pixel 4 still. They can pay me anytime.

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morbihann t1_iyddi8w wrote

I honestly can't imagine someone paying me (and I agreeing) to endorse something without actually using it (and liking it).

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Daedelous2k t1_iydi57j wrote

But first, it's ya boi raid shadow legends.

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DOGETHEEGOD t1_iydsvue wrote

This is the start of a series of embarrassing stories

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400921FB54442D18 t1_iydzzqe wrote

Given that companies of all sizes have demonstrated that they're willing to resort to similar tactics, why does anyone still believe any claim in any advertising? The surest sign that any statement might be untrue is that it came from an advertiser's or marketer's mouth, pen, or keyboard.

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Fragrant-Astronaut57 t1_iye67qz wrote

I’m confused. Isn’t this how all advertising has always worked?

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RanaI_Ape t1_iyeprhu wrote

Cool, they made that in the time it took me to read the headline. This will totally cause them to change.

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gk99 t1_iybgbn6 wrote

Change that M to a B and maybe we'll start getting somewhere.

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hightechsolution t1_iy9rbwo wrote

No 3.5mm headphone jack, cannot plug it into the Stereo(Quad Monoblock) or Wired headphones to snowboard with

Therefore its shite

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3p1cBm4n9669 t1_iy9sk1m wrote

What premium phone has a 3.5mm headphone jack nowadays?

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hightechsolution t1_iyce06l wrote

Sony Xperia with a 4k screen the one I'm using with an SD card and a 3.5mm Jack

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sweetzombiejesusog t1_iy9v1zp wrote

They are probably still doing it. The pixel 6 pro is nearly unusable because of lag, stutters and freezing. No negative reviews anywhere

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BarrySix t1_iyaw9pw wrote

Eh?

Maybe something is wrong with your one. That's not normal.

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sweetzombiejesusog t1_iyb479v wrote

Actually it was bad enough that google warrantied it and it did the same thing out the box both times.

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BarrySix t1_iydypi9 wrote

This happened twice? All I can say is that's not my experience at all. But phones can go wrong. I had a LG V30 that was absolutely perfect in every single way except the camera would never focus. LG returns were a joke and never helped in any way.

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zZaphon t1_iy9o1bx wrote

I had a pixel and it sucked

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CoconutMinty t1_iy9ozsr wrote

care to elaborate?

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zZaphon t1_iy9p802 wrote

The phone would freeze repeatedly under minimal stress. I had the latest updates as well.

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3p1cBm4n9669 t1_iy9sy7k wrote

Not op but trash battery. I had both a Pixel 2XL and a 3, both were garbage and I’d be lucky to get 5 hours of screen on time.

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