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Azraelontheroof t1_iw25yw6 wrote

I think Snowden proved that most countries from the US to Europe are. It is a certainty that countries such as China and North Korea do and even countries such as Australia are involved in surveillance of their own people and others. You are right that it should not be trivialised but you are wrong if you think that this development in unique as it means that they have won the information war.

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listentothelynx t1_iw2fsgn wrote

Australia also doesn’t have a bill of rights in its federal constitution

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