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TheUnfathomableFrog t1_j28x418 wrote

Reply to comment by BababooeyHTJ in Tesla Model Y Was Europe's Best-Selling Car Overall In November by poke133

Among many reasons, gas is very expensive in Europe, much of it is cities that are poorly suited for combustion vehicles (city driving is inefficient, hence burning more gas), many governments are outlawing the sale of new consumer combustion vehicles in a few years to combat climate effects of combustion vehicles (so many people are getting ahead), to facilitate this many counties has increased taxes on combustion vehicles (IIRC Norway or Sweden has like 100% tax on combustion vehicles), so electric vehicles are better positioned price wise in some countries.

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BababooeyHTJ t1_j298v8s wrote

I understand that but we’re talking about a car 3 times the cost of a Prius. Unless you can foot a much larger down payment you’re paying significantly more monthly in just interest payments that you’re never getting back. I’m having a hard time seeing where the savings come from.

Tax incentives makes sense but is just Sweden and Norway enough to skew the results for all of Europe?

I completely understand the appeal of the model y but it’s way out of my price range.

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UnPlugged_Toaster t1_j2bq1vj wrote

its 3 times the cost of a prius here in NA, not really anymore as the new one starts at like 30k.

In Europe, your paying 8 bucks a gallon or even more, the VAT on ICE cars is really high to the point where its actually more expensive to buy a Prius than a Model 3 upfront. Then you get into the whole cost of electricity versus gas, little maintenance (no oil changes, less break weak, no transmissions, etc)

Majority of Europeans pay out the ass for gas because most European countries don't really product any of their own.

Like gas cars are so absurdly expensive in Europe, a base camry hybrid is FUCKING 61K USD: https://www.toyota.dk/nye-biler/camry

The model Y is 50000 Danish Krone more which is 5k USD and the model 3 standard range plus is cheaper and this is without any incentives. So in large swathes of Europe, its cheaper to buy a expensive ass Tesla than a toyota base trim upfront.

NA is kinda spoiled with its super cheap prices. Everything is so cheap here.

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