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BurpingHamBirmingham t1_j25e8s9 wrote

Well to be fair, who'd know the ins and outs better than someone who'd until recently worked there?

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EasterBunnyArt t1_j25h6gp wrote

And not like there is a giant list of “these people were fired and can’t be let in any more”.

Would be depressing for current employees and how could you update it to reflect the fired people working for a subsidiary or having become contractors?

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question_sunshine t1_j25hpwc wrote

What are you on about? Every job I have worked in for the last 10 years required a badge to swipe in and out of the building, and the badges can be deactivated remotely. The security guard sitting at the front desk doesn't have to look at a giant list and match it with your face, the little light turns red or green. The little gate does or doesn't open.

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HackSlashBurn t1_j26j0p1 wrote

Bingo. As well: Been fired? Quit for greener pastures? Fail a drug test? Guess what the physical security office is supposed to be aaaaaall over? Yeah. I see a huge, government-wide revamp, funded for 10 years. Everybody gets vetted again (background checks are already done annually instead of every three years) and a new office/appointed secretary gets d’jinned up. Instead of actually holding someone accountable and firing their ass, of course.

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EasterBunnyArt t1_j25luuf wrote

Okay, and no one ever walked into a door after someone badged in? Fucking ever?

Dude get off your high horse and embrace reality.

Aside from our mutual snark at each other, there are myriad ways to get into buildings. Physical penetration companies exist for a reason and some have shown that conventional security measures are easily beatable even for casual individuals once you know their weakness.

I liked the one video where a security door had a motion sensor on the inside and would unlock so people did not have to swipe to leave.

Turns out that if the doors is not properly sealed simply vapping into the crack can trigger the motion sensor and open the door from the inside.

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Procrasturbating t1_j261vcm wrote

You aren't wrong. Reality vs security theater. Former employees know how to game the system. Short of a security guard being at every entrance, people will piggy-back on another badge holder. Just be carrying a pile of boxes, and avoid the by-the-book types. You already know who would let it slide in another dept, excuse you have seen them do it before.

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emcee_gee t1_j26m9xx wrote

I worked for a big insurance company fifteen years ago and all the entrances at headquarters had revolving doors that would start going backwards if they detected more than one person. Piggybacking can certainly be prevented if you spend enough money.

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Procrasturbating t1_j26ml3v wrote

Can be prevented.. but not every location has a huge budget.

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drterdsmack t1_j26xf9z wrote

It's the fuckin DHS

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Procrasturbating t1_j26xsdo wrote

Ha.. you ever worked for the government? People become complicit.. budgets get allocated unevenly.. contractors generally follow rules to keep contracts, but actual government.. not always.

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Banea-Vaedr t1_j24izph wrote

I used to work for DHS. The single unarmed security guard at the door would open it for you if he knew you.

That said, I heard the office the people I worked with previously was armed to the teeth. Rifleman at every door. The power of New York City, I guess.

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Will2x99 t1_j29f4tw wrote

I used to work for DHS as well, in the same capacity that I have worked for the Federal Government for close to 20 years now. This article fails to articulate how EASY it is to invalidate these and deactivate them. This is a matter of laziness, on all levels, especially the personnel security department of these offices. Which is sad, since THEY issue the cards, and THEY are the ones that hammer home to the recipient the “importance of deactivating your PIV card.”

What an utter joke.

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400921FB54442D18 t1_j26175q wrote

Not surprising since their entire purpose in life is to waste resources on security theater, instead of making anything safer in any actual, measurable way.

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letemfight t1_j27dab6 wrote

Hey, making people throw out their water bottles before getting on a plane is how we'll stop Al Qaeda.

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JimiDarkMoon t1_j290ys2 wrote

14 of the 19 Hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, financed and imparted spiritually from said Kingdom, but water bottles are the issue. Can you hide box cutters in water bottles?

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lord_pizzabird t1_j29903y wrote

I don't think the concern is hiding box cutters in water bottles, but liquids used in explosives or for acid attacks.

Like yeah, Saudi Arabia should be held accountable for their involvement in 9/11, but those security restrictions on flights are just random to annoy you.

There's thought behind why they ban certain things from flights.

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JimiDarkMoon t1_j29lif4 wrote

Explosive liquid? what if I ate a solid that then turned into a explosive liquid?

Lookin at you Taco Bell.

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Will2x99 t1_j25pokd wrote

DHS is a bloated over funded federal agency with almost ZERO direction.

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Not_the_brightest t1_j26iigx wrote

This is wild.

I’ve seen people threatened with a call tot he police for failing to return a PIV after leaving a job.

Who the hell is running the show in these places.

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plopseven t1_j26ec3j wrote

Cops get grenade launchers and these guys can’t secure their own lobby. Neat.

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gerberag t1_j25pvcz wrote

Why would they care?

Their only purpose is subjugate people in the US.

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fred1445 t1_j26cntv wrote

locks only keep honest people honest!

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Absentfriends t1_j2675dy wrote

Why would the cards not be surrendered when they are fired?

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damnedspot t1_j275bwr wrote

Com’n! He was on vacation, then he was sick, the day he meant to drop off his card the office was closed for a holiday, then he went to a big rally on January 6th, then he was sick again, then oops! He misplaced the card…

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vegisteff t1_j26c8hs wrote

They don't mention if anyone has already improperly accessed the buildings.

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Inconceivable-2020 t1_j25zc9m wrote

The only people DHS fires are ones that know and defend the Constitution and therefore are not MAGA enough.

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ZenFreefall-064 t1_j268eon wrote

Thought someone was gonna say just carry a rubics cube, toss it to security the wham, home free. Yeah, I know, oblique reply

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dleexlff t1_j26uu1n wrote

USA is only as strong as it’s weakest point.

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QristopherQuixote t1_j2920vy wrote

This is such a simple problem to solve. This is bureaucratic inertia.

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TheseLipsSinkShips t1_j29zil9 wrote

House cleaning coming? Are we (the US law) completely dysfunctional now? Even when our national security is at risk?

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whjeon t1_j2743wc wrote

hey, it's feature not a bug

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Ronbergs t1_j27mtf5 wrote

This country is a joke thanks to right wingers.

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yeehah t1_j27omvm wrote

Am I the only one who kept reading "PIV cards" as "penis in vagina cards"?

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