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hotsauceremedy2023 t1_j5xufl8 wrote

Cool, I always want to hear what a ranting fool in adult diapers thinks about current events.

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-Venser- t1_j5xuwjr wrote

Shouldn't have been banned in the first place.

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Kullenbergus t1_j5xwog5 wrote

They are worried what he will do when he gets back, or atleast if he gets back.

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Suspicious-Yogurt-95 t1_j5y0y2e wrote

People should be allowed to speak. That's how we know who they really are. Give them the rope and let them hang themselves.

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TheHylianProphet t1_j5y23x5 wrote

As I understand it, the breaking point was this:

[Mr Trump eventually posted a video on Facebook and Instagram urging his supporters to leave the Capitol and go home.

But infamously Mr Trump also took the opportunity to tell them: “We love you, you’re very special.”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/why-donald-trump-banned-facebook-b1859976.html)

They were already bending the rules for Trump during his presidency, but this was too far for them.

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sickofthisshit t1_j5y387v wrote

Trump can speak all he wants on the street corner or on Truth Social. There's no reason Facebook has to let him speak there. If I ever logged back on Facebook, hearing Trump bitch about whatever idiotic gripe he has or cheering on white supremacists is something that would make me log right back out.

Of course, Facebook is probably trying to appease the nutjob Republicans in Congress, and it's their choice. But it's a real sign to me I don't want to be on Facebook.

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-Venser- t1_j5y3hog wrote

First of, fuck Trump. Second, I don't think this qualifies as rules being broken, more like media pressuring social media sites to ban him. That's been proven with Twitter files. 3rd, you want a president to have a voice on social media so people can see what they think out in the open. You can criticize them but silencing is wrong IMO.

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Suspicious-Yogurt-95 t1_j5y5mip wrote

I left Facebook since 2015. No regrets so far. About Trump, I'm not from USA so I'm not very knowledgeable about America's politics, but from what I know it's crazy to think he could win a second time, specially after the Capitol episode. Here in Brazil we had our Trump-like president (who was actually a fan of Donald Trump) and it was awful. And we had something similar to what happened in the Capitol, except nobody died here. It was ridiculous to see.

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j5y6o27 wrote

Using mentally ill people as entertainment is extremely distasteful.

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Jshan91 t1_j5y9cn5 wrote

You’re wrong IMO. Trump used his platform to incite hate and violence. That broke the terms of service for theses social media companies. It’s not complicated at all he definitely deserved the ban.

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Geass10 t1_j5y9n7o wrote

Causing an insurectoin?

Eh we can bring Trump back on to social media even though he tried to steal the election.

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This gives me 1930s vibes.

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Westfakia t1_j5yb1ci wrote

Free speech does not mean that private companies are unable to regulate what is a said on their platforms, or who can say it. That’s why every media company has you agree to the terms of service before you are allowed to sign up.

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Jshan91 t1_j5ykfj6 wrote

Dude are you telling me you’re clueless as to why trump got banned. As if Twitter and every single platform didn’t give a well documented reason when they did? I shouldn’t have to dig up the sources for you it’s common knowledge. This guy is making a claim with literally zero proof besides whataboutism

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simmons777 t1_j5yr26c wrote

I feel like this should be in the r/Whatcouldgowrong sub.

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orlyfactor t1_j5z8l4w wrote

Same! 1 Jan 2015 I cut that cord and it has been fantastic! Now I don’t know what my shitty in laws political views are until I actually see them where I can just ignore every word that comes out of their mouths instead of being inundated with their idiocy all the time.

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Suspicious-Yogurt-95 t1_j5zanuy wrote

You know, I thought exactly the same when I wrote it. It's totally valid argument. But the world today look at the right wing as lunatics, for what I can see. I don't know if it's like this in US but here in Brazil, most people see the supporters of Bolsonaro as crazy people, and they look exactly like that. And we can avoid dealing with them because we know they're like this. My point is: if you know the owner of that nice store is a white supremacist, racist, that kind of shit, would you make business with him? I would look somewhere else. I think most people would do that. They would be naturally silenced. Today we have information traveling faster. Maybe if we had this technology back then Hitler would have become just another crazy dude everyone ignore. It's a big maybe. I think I just believe most people are still sane.

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Conscious_Figure_554 t1_j5zc1qd wrote

Only way to make money is to let the biggest magnet of fascism in the US back so that they can merch these idiots product that would stoke more anger. I don’t know maybe guns and ammo

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Lumiafan t1_j5zhym3 wrote

>We had something similar to what happened in the Capitol, except nobody died here. It was ridiculous to see.

The same fascist ideologies that blossomed under Trump also blossomed under Jair Bolsonaro. Trump and Bolsonaro are like two peas in a pod, so it wasn't the least bit surprising to me to see a similar attempted insurrection in Brazil.

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HearthHolmes t1_j5zo4oq wrote

Deactivated and Deleted. Thank you for giving me the final push I needed Meta.

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Suspicious-Yogurt-95 t1_j5zxknc wrote

That's exactly why I don't like most social media. People lose their connection to the real world. But the way I see, shutting people doesn't make their stupid ideas go away. We need better information and education to solve this problem. Shutting them up gives them another narrative of oppression. It works in the short term though.

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RabidHyenaSauce t1_j60ycrr wrote

...yeah Shit like this makes me glad I techically deleted my Facebook account long before meta was even a thing. What little info they got out is hella outdated, and stuff like this ensures I will forever stay the hell away from the big ones like facebook and Twitter. Clearly, they do not have our best interests in mind. Give them time, and they will probably trash themselves in the end a thousand times over

How can they get ad revenue if the sites are techically dead? It is almost like their asking for trouble at this rate.

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Jorycle t1_j610i63 wrote

They said it would be a two year ban and then they'd reassess, and now they've reassessed. I'm wondering what their criteria may be given that he's changed absolutely nothing whatsoever. He is still saying and doing all the same shit, the only thing that's changed is where he's doing it. Facebook must be desperate to get some money to fill their VR money pit.

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Jorycle t1_j6116ux wrote

But nothing's stopping him from speaking. We all know what Trump says and does despite not being on these platforms. Platforms like Facebook just said two years ago that they didn't want him speaking in their living rooms, but this didn't stop him from walking into someone else's living room, building his own house to yell in, or just yelling in the street.

Most attempts to equate this stuff to censorship and a free speech thing misunderstand free speech. Free speech isn't just your freedom to say a thing, its also other people's freedom not to hear what you have to say.

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Suspicious-Yogurt-95 t1_j6192vp wrote

I get your point, I know how annoying these people are, I have relatives like that. But I'm not complaining about any kind of censorship nor freedom of speech. Social media has their rules and users must abide or leave. My point is: maybe we are close to racist, white supremacist, homophobic people, maybe we let them become close to our family, spouse/husband, children and we don't know because they can't say what they think.

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LiviNG4them t1_j63emmj wrote

This is a good thing. People are forgetting how much of an asshole he is. Everyone needs to be reminded quickly.

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b_a_t_m_4_n t1_j63hcsu wrote

Honestly it's not so much the cult leader themselves that scare me, it's how easily swayed by them so many people are and how a core will adamantly refuse to condemn then no matter how far beyond the pale their behavior becomes.

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prickles_and_goo t1_j63w8yg wrote

any revenue is good revenue.. glad to see facebook is that far in the red that they'd welcome back big orange

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prickles_and_goo t1_j63wo9p wrote

not sure how you're able to mentally sum up my desire for an actual society governed by actual adults using actual laws as a simple cardinal direction, but I'm guessing it's because you receive most of your thoughts instead of generating them yourself.

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Jes_Cr t1_j661vb5 wrote

True. The funny thing is I don't even like Trump, it just show all the downvoters lack objectivity. The president is old and rambles. It's not a secret, just a denial lol

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Jes_Cr t1_j664uoo wrote

Oh yeah neither one of em is.. As long as you're not riding smoking dicks while peddling hash. Unless you're into that. Either way you sound fun, keep doing what you're doing lol

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BeKind_BeTheChange t1_j671g7c wrote

Why? He has shown the exact opposite of remorse. He continues the exact same actions as always. The man needs to be ostracized and put in prison for the rest of his life, not coddled and enabled like has always been the case.

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HeyaShinyObject t1_j6af8wu wrote

The majority of the US is left-leaning (by US left/right definitions). Republicans win because they are better at getting their base out to vote and they are better at creating an advantage in the electoral college. Take a look at the popular vote numbers.

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