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DerekTheSkiNerd t1_j5rrzq5 wrote

Some of the other unions in the group didn't want to strike and appealed to Biden.

Also the Democrats voted in favor of forcefully adding sick leave to the contract, republicans filibustered that measure.

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Cytizens9320 t1_j5rxaiu wrote

>Also the Democrats voted in favor of forcefully adding sick leave to the contract, republicans filibustered that measure.

They deliberately separated the bill in order to absolve themselves and point to the republicans

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indoninja t1_j5vpsln wrote

When every Democrat, except for Joe Manchin supports it, and every Republican is against it, seems pretty weird that you would blame Democrats.

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Cytizens9320 t1_j5w2u2g wrote

Because they separated it when it should've been under one bill.

It all started because Biden sided with the railways corporations over Unions

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indoninja t1_j5wcpg5 wrote

Do you think Republicans would have voted for it?

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Cytizens9320 t1_j5whpq7 wrote

What does republicans have to do with it? Republicans didn't force Biden to forbid railway union from striking and making it illegal

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indoninja t1_j5wi714 wrote

You understand that democrats voted for a bill to give the union sick days and Republicans blocked it.

I am asking you what do you think it would’ve happened if they tried to pass one pill with the sick days in it, do you think Republicans would have supported it?

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stuntmanbob86 t1_j5x8a68 wrote

Yes, I am 100% certain it would have passed. The stakes were too high if there was a strike. Biden and his board had the chance to put sick days in the TA, they just settled on 1 personal day....

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indoninja t1_j5y34uz wrote

You won’t think republicans would relish the chance to hurt the economy and blame Biden? Where have you Ben the last 15 years?

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geekynerdynerd t1_j610tw5 wrote

Bruh I'd they'd voted no on forcing a deal to keep the economy functioning it would be the easiest political win ever for the Democrats, not the Republicans. The Democrats would've been able to point to how they all voted for it and the Republicans just wouldn't come to the table.

The only reason to separate them is because the Democrats actually didn't want it to pass. Moderate Democrats follow this playbook time and time again and people like you keep eating it up.

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indoninja t1_j61rbv7 wrote

>The Democrats would've been able to point to how they all voted for it and the Republicans just wouldn't come to the table.

Pointing g to stuff does t matter when people are unep played and can’t put food on the table.

With almost two years until an election and Fox News blaming dems for no clean bill it would be a gain for republicans and still very little chance workers got what they wanted.

>Moderate Democrats follow this playbook time and time again and people like you keep eating it up.

The reality is the only way to force those seven days into a bill is with Republican cooperation, Democrats overwhelmingly voted for it, Republicans overwhelmingly voted against it, and somehow you still playing Democrats, but I’m the one eating a propaganda, OK

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Cytizens9320 t1_j68b6gf wrote

This whole thing started because government got involved with a private dispute between Corporation and the employees.

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indoninja t1_j68hlfv wrote

Private?

Not since railroad act of 1863.

The corporation has had huge givt benefits and its service is part of critical infrastructure. It os nonsense to think the givt should just shrug it’s shoulder and let a strike happen.

Seems weird to claim you are upset about lack of sick days but dont blame the people who voted against it.

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DerekTheSkiNerd t1_j5s34dh wrote

I think it was actually for stupid boring procedural rules reasons they were separated, not the reason you posit. but i could be mistaken

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Ogediah t1_j5ryz8u wrote

That’s not what happened or how it works.

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DerekTheSkiNerd t1_j5s3923 wrote

That is exactly what happened, and that is how it works.

Corporations are generally shit, but unions aren't perfect little angels that are always right.

12 unions were subject to that contract, some of them didn't want to strike.

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Ogediah t1_j5tgtnn wrote

That’s not what happened or how it works.

Source: I have a formal education in this area and lots of experience exercising it.

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processedmeat t1_j5s478a wrote

Tell me again who signed the bill?

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DerekTheSkiNerd t1_j5s4czl wrote

Tell me how you or I are in any position to determine which of the 12 unions was in the right and which were in the wrong. Some wanted to strike, some didn't.

The real world isn't black and white.

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processedmeat t1_j5t4rx4 wrote

Let the unions that want to strike strike and the ones that don't dont

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DerekTheSkiNerd t1_j5u6n5z wrote

Except that isn't how that contract worked. it was an all or nothing. the ones that didn't want to would have been forced to as well.

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