indoninja

indoninja t1_j68hlfv wrote

Private?

Not since railroad act of 1863.

The corporation has had huge givt benefits and its service is part of critical infrastructure. It os nonsense to think the givt should just shrug it’s shoulder and let a strike happen.

Seems weird to claim you are upset about lack of sick days but dont blame the people who voted against it.

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indoninja t1_j61rbv7 wrote

>The Democrats would've been able to point to how they all voted for it and the Republicans just wouldn't come to the table.

Pointing g to stuff does t matter when people are unep played and can’t put food on the table.

With almost two years until an election and Fox News blaming dems for no clean bill it would be a gain for republicans and still very little chance workers got what they wanted.

>Moderate Democrats follow this playbook time and time again and people like you keep eating it up.

The reality is the only way to force those seven days into a bill is with Republican cooperation, Democrats overwhelmingly voted for it, Republicans overwhelmingly voted against it, and somehow you still playing Democrats, but I’m the one eating a propaganda, OK

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indoninja t1_j60wlha wrote

If you are open to the public, or are selling tickets to the public, there should be a pretty high bar to blanket ban groups of people.

And if you’re going to do that, the onus should be on you publicly list, all those people, and all the groups, and make it clear to anyone buying a ticket who is on that list.

In this case, they were banning anyone they could find connected to a law firm that was representing a person, suing them, that looks to me like it’s harassment against the law firm for taking the case.

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indoninja t1_j607aid wrote

Do you not know how this works?

The meeting was between union ladies and the corporations. They knew corporations would say no to the sick days. They had a plan corp would accept and union would vote on. And about half accepted it.

That doesn’t mean I like it or think it was good, but it does mean it had a decent level of support.

You keep pretending Biden had powe to do something else to force companies to take the seven sick days and that is flat out wrong.

Almost every democratic supported it while majority of republicans were against it and Biden clearly was for it. I dont get the mental gymnastics to look at that and say both sides, and I am done repeating the ame facts you are ignoring.

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indoninja t1_j601dsf wrote

> Why would he push the agreement he helped create if he knew the workers werent going to pass it?

He didn’t know that and almost half did accept that.

He clearly knew the companies would t take it because they didn’t have to ask thousands to find out, they had a no for that at the table

> Republicans are just as much garbage as democrats are in Congress.

Almost every democratic supported it while majority of republicans were against it and Biden clearly was for it.

I dont get the mental gymnastics to look at that and say both sides, and I am done repeating the ame facts you are ignoring.

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indoninja t1_j5zz2e0 wrote

You are asking why he didn’t try something he knew the companies would say no to?

Biden pushed for a law that Democrats overwhelmingly supported that was blocked in the senate to give the union what you are talking about.

And the only people you are blaming is Biden and democrats, not the people who actually blocked it.

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indoninja t1_j5z4jfl wrote

Biden alone couldn’t decide a plan and force it. And the one the put forth with an additional personal day did get company and half the union support

For a stick to force 7 sick days he needed the senate. The only people in the senate who voted against sick days were republicans and joe manchin.

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indoninja t1_j5z1usa wrote

Looks like you are ignoring congress under Clinton.

Looks like you are hlossing over the republicans threatening to shut down the givt over Obama wanting to end bush tax cuts for people making over 250k.

Looks like you are ignoring Bidens plan to tax any increase in wealth for people who have over a billion (ie directly adress the gross growth in income inequality from on people who make most their money outside “income”).

Edit-way ti back up your well points by blocking me.

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indoninja t1_j5yy92h wrote

Biden didn’t have the power to push that without a bill that passes the senate.

I’m positive republicans would have blocked it, and even if you dont agree it is silly to pretend Biden didn’t have to weigh that or the risk it would oppose to the rest of america.

BYW banking or Republicans being putting country over party has been a failing bet for over a decade. No idea why you would trust them no.

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indoninja t1_j5yg7xm wrote

> So we can postulate whether or not the republicans would have “crashed the economy” rather than give some blue collar guys a few sick days, but the bottom line is, we’ll never know, because the fight wasn’t framed that way.

It was framed that way and recognized that way by all the adults paying attention.

> If we can’t engineer an healthy economy based on a fair exchange between labor and capital on a leveled playing field, then I don’t give a shit if we have one or not.

I dont think we should cut off or nose to spite our face.

And those are the options as long as we need 11 republicans to support sick days for rail workers.

> In general, establishment Dems don’t have a great track record.

dont have a great track record of helping against x isnt in the same league as actively working against.

And you can insert anything in as x from education and healthcare to labor rights and environment.

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indoninja t1_j5y5btz wrote

Republicans at one point filibustered a law strictly to protect sick veterans. It’s completely on track for them to be completely against helping out unions with sick days, if you really wanna insist, you think they would’ve seen the light and supported it, despite them actually voting against that position, when given a chance, nothing I can say will change your mind.

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indoninja t1_j5y31er wrote

> You want to go around thinking that modern day democrats are more like FDR than conservatives from 40 years ago, go ahead.

I think they clearly are.

> Simple fact is though, had they wanted to, sick days could have been included in the bill.

They could have.

The question is if you think it kills have had any chance to pass.

> Stop acting like the only choice in front of them was to fuck workers.

See above republicans would have certainly blocked it.

Stop acting like this was in a vacuum and democrats didn’t have to worry about actually governing, spiraling inflation a shaky economy and a financial crisis from a strike, where the only way ti avoid it was a law to get the workers to accept something.

Again the only group blocking sick days was republicans . You ignoring everything else about the date of the country and the risk of the strike isn’t an honest view of the situation.

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indoninja t1_j5wfall wrote

Republicans and Democrats overwhelmingly supported a plan that would prevent a strike that would further cripple an economy that was struggling with out of control inflation.

Democrats passed a bill in the house, and had all but one senator Supporting it, well, Republican, senators blocked it.

Pretty odd it take for you to blame Democrats for trying to give the labor union what they wanted, and making a responsible choice for the hundreds of millions of Americans would have to deal with the fall out of a strike

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