Submitted by Crisp_Strudel t3_z5etkw in vermont
happyonthehill802 t1_ixvpgjp wrote
Very little posted land, and no trespassing laws unless posted. Most land that is posted is some rich out of stater that doesnt like hunting.
Complete-Shake-8050 t1_ixvtgx2 wrote
It’s always good to ask permission though if you’re on private property, especially since there are a lot of hunters and it’s always good for the landowner to know who is on their land. I’ve lived in VT my whole life and always asked permission for access to unposted property, but I have noticed since owning property it isn’t the case for all hunters/people.
fiddlersgreen2021 t1_ixw7o5a wrote
This, it’s very easy to find out who owns property via the state’s parcel viewer online. I don’t post my property, but if I found someone setting up tree stands with out having the decency to ask permission or open a dialogue first, you can bet I’m asking them to leave. I’d say it’s that kind of scenario that gets land posted more often than not.
happyonthehill802 t1_ixwkeur wrote
Im not telling anyone to just go hunt someones land without asking. In my town it seems as though property sells, and immediately gets posted...cant say i know the back story on all of those scenarios.
As far as hiking, i personally wouldnt expect someone to ask me if they wanted to hike up to the top of my mountain and enjoy the view. Have at it. If you want to park in my driveway, i would expect you to ask.
Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixwosqu wrote
For sure it is, unless your tracking and happen to pass through multiple owners. As for the stands, permissions required.
Amyarchy t1_ixwh7yd wrote
Our land is posted and I can assure you we're not rich out of staters, but we would like to be able to actually walk around in our woods without fear of being shot. There's LOADS of land near here open to hunting, my little bit of space doesn't have to be open to everyone.
happyonthehill802 t1_ixwjsos wrote
This isnt an attack on people who post their land...your choice. My stance on it is that if you post your land, i better not find you walking on mine. Vermont is full of beautiful mountaintops, a lot of them private property. As someone who owns such property, i feel it would be very selfish to post that and not let others enjoy. As i enjoy thousands of acres in my town (respectfully) without permission.
Side note: Hunters wont just shoot you, and you should wear orange during hunting season regardless of how posted your land is. Most respectful hunters will ask before parking and hunting on your land, and certainly before setting up a tree stand.
Amyarchy t1_ixwo9py wrote
You certainly seem hostile to people who post. That's your right, but own it.
somedudevt t1_ixws4h0 wrote
Posting is selfish in Vermont, and not in the traditions of our state. That’s the reality. Our history of public access to private lands go back to our founding 250 years ago. Hostility toward people who post is not a bad thing here, as it’s a cultural shift away from what has historically made Vermont what it is.
codeQueen t1_ixxpgdw wrote
Wanting to be able to be safe on your own land is not selfish. Thinking you have the right to walk around and shoot shit on other peoples' property is.
somedudevt t1_ixyynnw wrote
No it’s being a traditional Vermonter. This stuff is LITTERALLY written into the state constitution. So posting is as I said a selfish action that goes against what it means to be a Vermonter. Also posting unless you have a GIANT plot of land isn’t exactly protecting you from the irrational fear of a hunter. A .308 round can travel over 1000 yards. Take a look at a map and circle 1000 yards from your living room. Do you own all that? And is it posted? If not posting isn’t increasing your safety. Also hunting accidents are extremely rare.
The most recent stats I can find are from NY state showing that incidents 1 incident per 100,000 hunters, and showed that all incidents were among hunters not non hunters for the year in the article. It is exceedingly rare (not never) for a person who is not involved in hunting to be involved in a hunting related accident. So the fear that it will happen to you, and the action to post land to avoid it, is irrational and not based on an actual threat/risk. Your risk of a drunk driver visiting your bedroom with their pickup truck at night are higher than a hunter shooting you while hunting.
Amyarchy t1_ixyvv6s wrote
I don't want random strangers with guns wandering around my yard/woods. That's not selfish. There aren't many spots on our land where you're not fairly close to a home. It's not appropriate.
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