_foxmotron_ t1_j2ttxhb wrote on January 3, 2023 at 10:20 PM

Reply to comment by Hulk_Runs in Burlington had 5 murders in 2022, the most since 1960 by BoringAccountName78

Seeing a one time bump in stats after the stats have remained consistent for X years is the definition of a statistical anomaly. My initial comment literally said “Statistical anomaly until WE HAVE MORE DATA IN THE FUTURE.”

somedudevt t1_j2urzy0 wrote on January 4, 2023 at 2:14 AM

But who cares if it’s an anomaly today? You are pretending that we shouldn’t act till we have more data. You must work in some corporate job where they just look at data and take no action.

January 6th 2021 had multiple people die in the transfer of power in the US. This was the first time in US history this happened. Statistically that’s an anomaly. But I bet you would agree that there is a problem with our democracy when that happens? Similarly these murders are a symptom of an issue and calling them an anomaly and writing them off is shortsighted and ignoring reality. Everyone sees the issue and anyone who pretends we don’t have data to say there is an issue is trying to avoid the truth.

The issue in a nutshell is drugs, poverty, and police who are afraid of being labeled biased or racist for doing the proactive policing and community outreach needed to reduce the crime.

_foxmotron_ t1_j2us9ie wrote on January 4, 2023 at 2:16 AM

Care to show where I said we should take no action?

somedudevt t1_j2ut38d wrote on January 4, 2023 at 2:22 AM

You said it’s an anomaly till we have more data. That is saying that we should wait for data before we think it’s worth addressing. It’s implied in the statement. Gathering more data is inaction. I can’t be alone in recognizing that the entire world is broken… nobody trusts instinct and observation any longer. Everything is crippled by waiting for data, which is then argued over. Look at the world warming and species dying while people argue over data. This is another case of that. It’s an anomaly we don’t need to act. Nobody wants to make a decision and take an action.

_foxmotron_ t1_j2utw2q wrote on January 4, 2023 at 2:27 AM

That’s you making assumptions about my intent. I’m not responsible for your assumptions.

somedudevt t1_j2uu5ga wrote on January 4, 2023 at 2:29 AM

So let’s be clear:

Do you believe that there is an issue in need of addressing?

_foxmotron_ t1_j2uuvpw wrote on January 4, 2023 at 2:35 AM

Do I think that there’s an issue that will lead to a trend in rising murder rates? Probably not. Do I think issues that exist that by solving would probably lower the crime rate in general? One hundred percent.

Hulk_Runs t1_j2txs6v wrote on January 3, 2023 at 10:45 PM

How many years?

_foxmotron_ t1_j2u38km wrote on January 3, 2023 at 11:21 PM

However many it takes to see a trend.

“Burlington had more murders in 2022”, and, “There’s no indication that murder rates are on the rise in Burlington” can both be true statements.