Submitted by Much_Blacksmith_9865 t3_yibwdr in wallstreetbets
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Much_Blacksmith_9865 OP t1_iuht8p8 wrote
Yeah did you not hear about how they released their financial statement a week ago!
Brawmethius t1_iuhtp8k wrote
Maybe this will shed light to all the headline ER "traders".
"wHy StONk doWN, bEaT EPs"
Yeah well buddy no one was happy to see AWS slowing growth and this graphic does a great job of why people are not happy about that.
Plus bad Q4 guidance.
Investors probably starting to go "Hey amazon can you go from that we losing money to grow to just profit on the main business" and Amazon said yeah no lol.
brainwashedASSHOLE t1_iuhtv66 wrote
What happens when China invades Taiwan, US stops imports from china, and Amazon has nothing to sell?
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more_random22 t1_iuhuemq wrote
What happens when earth is hit by an asteroid
Amazon has nothing to sell
What happens when Jesus returns and blah blah blah , then Amazon won't blah blah blah
ellisc2 t1_iuhuk4j wrote
source: https://twitter.com/EconomyApp
Do_dirty3 t1_iuhuz74 wrote
Thanks for sharing! Perhaps a takeaway or two is what those folks would be looking for :)
lrrc49 t1_iuhwm1k wrote
the second china starts loading up boats a fraction of the usa navy will just go and chill out in between the two countries.
Ain't no way an invasion is actually going to happen.
legitqu t1_iuhxx9d wrote
Exactly, OP also removed their watermark and added his own, "diamond hands" says it all
Soft-Breadfruit8690 t1_iuhybee wrote
> What happens when China invades Taiwan
We all laugh at a country with no recent military experience and no experience in amphibious invasions completely fail and gets butchered by the thousands of prepared defenses on Taiwan.
We might even get so see Taiwanese tanks grease their tracks with PLA soldiers’ guts: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guningtou
seethecopecuck t1_iuhyc9k wrote
This just highlights how much of a juggernaut APPL is. AAPL revenue is double.
Edit: this is not true, I looked at an incorrect graphic. Still beast but not that beast.
Wotg33k t1_iuhzb4w wrote
Bezos ain't got it.
I just don't think he has the love for technology and human life that it takes to take Amazon to the next level. He got caught up in the profits like most do. None of these dudes are nerds or geeks. They're sell outs. Except maybe Elon, but he's disappointing in his own way.
AmazingLetterhead194 t1_iuhzu8w wrote
What is the name of the app that’s generating these charts ?
TheSneedles t1_iui0hu2 wrote
If Amazon had to pay taxes like they should, they would be literally losing money
Elderberry-smells t1_iui11g3 wrote
Sankeymatic.com probably. The visuals are called Sankey diagrams
Tarron_Tarron t1_iui13ru wrote
What is the difference between COST OF REVENUE and OPERATING EXPENSE
Archivist_of_Lewds t1_iui3541 wrote
Elons king sellout. Dude doesn't even actual invent things. He buys them and then tries to extract profit by boosting shares with market manipulation.
Trouser_Snakes t1_iui3ht9 wrote
I think its how much each stuffed panda costs (CoR) vs how much it costs to keep all the lights on/machines running in a Fulfillment Center (it's a lot... we run 24/7)
H3rbert_K0rnfeld t1_iui5rw1 wrote
What happens when there's an Alien invasion and Amazon has nothing to sell? Ol' Herb's puts will print.
Wirecard_trading t1_iui5slr wrote
So AMZN financials are shit? Thanks we knew that before.
They had a decrease of -19,X bn in FCF for Q3 btw. Let that sink in.
Edit: Everybody shits on META, but they are FCF positive despite huge R&D costs which might lead to something. the real fuck up is AMZN imho. warehouses..yeah right fucking geniuses over there.
H3rbert_K0rnfeld t1_iui5xne wrote
No way would Russia invade Ukraine. Yet here we are.
Spare-Competition-91 t1_iui67yi wrote
FUck Meta. They Myspace 2.0
owentrillson t1_iui687b wrote
What is cost of revenue? why is it not extrapolated I’m regarded thanks regards 👍🏼🌈🐻
[deleted] t1_iui70jo wrote
Q3 revenues are: AMZN: $127 billion, AAPL: $83 billion.
Maybe you meant profit, not revenue?
Wotg33k t1_iui7bhh wrote
I'm saying at least he still geeks out. The rest of them are all just rich and confused.
[deleted] t1_iui7lqj wrote
What specifically do you see in this infographic that's bad? Other than a visual illustration of how small the profit margin is compared to the cost & revenue?
Electrical_Raisin_93 t1_iui98ro wrote
Their margin is low!
Kind_Elephant t1_iui99qk wrote
And whole foods?
lrrc49 t1_iuiam6z wrote
Yeah and the response and subsequent gutting of the Russian economy should serve as a deterrent.
Brawmethius t1_iuibhc2 wrote
Yes exactly that. With out AWS they run at a loss.
What did we find out at Q3?
AWS slowing growth.
Or in other words; Amazon effectively came out and said there is a chance we return to operating at a quaterly loss.
Expecting additional costs to revenue and slowing revenue.
IcarusOnReddit t1_iuibwni wrote
Couldn’t China just blackmail American politicians to not do anything like Russia did with Trump and others?
Hang10Dude t1_iuic2fa wrote
Interesting thanks.
LeCheval t1_iuic58i wrote
Look at the profit margin for AWS compared to the entire rest of Amazon’s business.
AWS
- Revenue = $20.8B
- Operating Profit = $5.4B
Rest of Amazon
- Revenue = $106.3B
- Operating Profit (Loss) = ($2.98B)
If Amazon were to immediately sell off everything except for its AWS portion of the company, it would (theoretically) increase profits by ~$3B. Everything other than AWS looks like a money sink.
[deleted] t1_iuicskd wrote
SANKEY diagram! They’re very nice, easy to configure.
LeCheval t1_iuicv9z wrote
I believe that Cost of Revenue are generally direct/variable costs while operating expenses are fixed/indirect costs. The cost of revenue would include things like the cost of the goods sold, whereas operating costs would include things like electricity/lease/employee salary costs.
lrrc49 t1_iuicvk1 wrote
depends on if they have enough legit blackmail on enough key politicians.
The military industrial complex is also a huge lobby and would certainly push to send resources (and Taiwan is arming up as we speak $$).
alphaomega0669 t1_iuiea4y wrote
Tax: $0.1b. 😂
discountgenghiskhan t1_iuif01a wrote
Amazon’s policy about growth haven’t changed in the last 20 years, I don’t think they give a flying fuck about their stock prices or what the retail traders think.
discountgenghiskhan t1_iuifdtz wrote
direct vs indirect costs, do a quick google search for COGS vs operating expenses
discountgenghiskhan t1_iuifece wrote
direct vs indirect costs, do a quick google search for COGS vs operating expenses
BSCompliments t1_iuifo93 wrote
Why? Profit.
meta1sides t1_iuig0hi wrote
The fact that this is the 2nd top comment speaks volumes
IcarusOnReddit t1_iuigbke wrote
Hmmm. Hard to say. I think it’s safe to say that Russian blackmail/bribes are an influential factor on the GOP versus the dems, but have we seen enough to know what the pressure situation is in China? Speaking of money, is it good for Chinese stocks if Rs win the midterms? Does Russian influence carry over to China in a similar manner for US politicians? Will NIO be great again?
Purple_Falcone t1_iuigi7h wrote
Comp this to Tesla and you can see why Tesla is so “overvalued” love to see some more profit from Amazon after all these years!
_Jetto_ t1_iuihtz6 wrote
Oh true. My small brain thought Amazon was on par with Apple in terms of scale etc but I’m dumb
BSCompliments t1_iuiiyj9 wrote
Well, Amazon has higher revs, they just don't get to keep nearly as much of it.
doolytokki t1_iuij3ua wrote
who mkes these beautiful breakdowns. is there something for other tickers? also has the data been vetted?
LavenderAutist t1_iuijcwd wrote
Why do people think it makes it easier to understand the financials of a business.
It would take me 10x the time to figure out what is going on then if this were in a table.
TheDoof79 t1_iuil6cd wrote
Fucking narc.
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Brawmethius t1_iuilvu9 wrote
Apple has about 90B quaterly revenue, Amazon has 130B.
Apple has better margins and lower total overhead. They are better at turning their revenue into profit.
In theory why Amazon got run up to 100 P/E is if they could maintain this revenue stream and bring down their costs they would become more profitable than Apple.
This last Q3 earnings reminded investors that is not in the next year.
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SuperMoonRocket t1_iuiqi4t wrote
This is one of the most beautiful graphs I’ve ever seen.
Every-Development398 t1_iuir133 wrote
Nice to see aws is carrying things.
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Modsarenotgay t1_iuit5l8 wrote
Wait he did? Lol what a jackass.
hellish0098 t1_iuivi9m wrote
Well…we need a more detailed breakdown to identify which businesses are actually losing money, I wanna bet those physical stores and prime content are huge money drainers
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GirthWoody t1_iuiy62f wrote
The mfs spent 700% more on making the Rings of Power than they did on taxes.
SkippyTheBlackCan t1_iuiz4ge wrote
That is lile 3% from the net income! And they wonder why the gov debit is high ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mnelson10000 t1_iuj1sqd wrote
Cost of revenue = cost of goods and operating expense = coke and hookers
spagetidoodle t1_iuj38oh wrote
If you controll the full market at a loss you are worth more than if you controll small amout of the market at a small profit. Amazon have money to play monopoly
AmazingLetterhead194 t1_iuj3vvh wrote
Thanks!!
ankole_watusi t1_iuj5ej2 wrote
That’s one thin mint there at upper right!
ankole_watusi t1_iuj5q4a wrote
Haha plus they would have a huge captive customer for AWS.
ankole_watusi t1_iuj641f wrote
If you control the full market at a loss eventually governments will crack down to prevent becoming a monopoly. And the unfair practice of “buying market share”
And this would be very damaging.
self-assembled t1_iuj6rri wrote
Great, so their tax rate is 3.4%. What happened to that minimum tax rate that was passed?
Miloh_Dangler t1_iujajcx wrote
I was wondering the same thing and hoping to find an answer in here that even a regard like myself could understand. Appreciate it bruv 👊
boygito t1_iujaw92 wrote
No they won’t. Governments only crackdown if a monopoly is hurting the public to make obscene profits. If a company is losing money, hrs hard to argue they are hurting the public
Notoriolus10 t1_iujbn8m wrote
They are a net issuer of shares and they rely on stock based compensation a lot to retain talent, to the tune of $17.7B in the last 12 months. Even if the company didn’t care about their stock price, their employees sure do.
lightning_whirler t1_iujciq7 wrote
Accountants can make the numbers look however they want. This is especially true with "Operating profit", a massive investment several years ago is now generating cash, but without knowing the depreciation of that initial investment, the operating profit number means nothing.
Chase-Lemon t1_iujd8yg wrote
Does anyone know how OP created this chart? Its a very solid way to visually show data and I want to use it at work on some presentations.
ankole_watusi t1_iujdp5l wrote
It’s predatory and yes they do. Bait and switch.
They don’t generally do it till the prices go up after complete control though.
Gummit is slow.
Idepreciateyou t1_iujkm9f wrote
This isn’t how it works, chief.
Idepreciateyou t1_iujktm9 wrote
Somehow this is the worst comment in this thread
Idepreciateyou t1_iujl3r0 wrote
Because the government is inefficient?
Why am I being downvoted? ☠️
Ashamed_Weird9478 t1_iujlm07 wrote
Where you find it from?
TheSneedles t1_iujlnso wrote
If Amazon paid taxes on its 127B of revenue they would be paying 20B in taxes, stupid idiot
Dr-Shakalu1 t1_iujonpe wrote
If companies paid c Corp tax rates on their revenue they would all go bankrupt.
Idepreciateyou t1_iujovwb wrote
How they gonna pay $20B in taxes on $2.9B of profit?
SaneLad t1_iujquop wrote
That's so regarded you must be a European politician or something.
ThatsUnbelievable t1_iujrc5u wrote
side hustles
koolbro2012 t1_iujsz5w wrote
cost basis for the items they sell or count as a sale. amazon is just an online Walmart.
GirthWoody t1_iuju1kd wrote
Companies pay taxes on profit not revenue.
TheSneedles t1_iujw1bu wrote
Why can’t I pay taxes on what left after my bills, regard.
TheSneedles t1_iujw3a1 wrote
Why can’t you pay taxes on what’s left after you pay your bills?
GirthWoody t1_iujzr3p wrote
Do you understand what revenue and profit mean?
Humble_Increase7503 t1_iuk0uny wrote
On AWS, perhaps they set some really hard to beat comps, and keeps a strong/healthy growth rate years out.
The truth of AWS growth was probably somewhere in between
Freezie--POP t1_iuk0yga wrote
Just think this is what the 3rd year in a row they don’t have to pay over 10% of there actual tax bill….
Sudden-Cow-5779 t1_iuk0zl6 wrote
What cite did you get theses charts from or did you make them ?
Humble_Increase7503 t1_iuk108y wrote
There’s Amazon “don’t care about the stock price”
And then there’s meta “don’t care about the stock price”
Humble_Increase7503 t1_iuk148y wrote
Why is that? Their margins outside of AWS
Idepreciateyou t1_iuk1rtw wrote
Because you don’t own a business
voluntarycap t1_iuk7d6r wrote
To think they could’ve increased their profit by over 30% by just not putting out the flaming shit can that was RoP
voluntarycap t1_iuk7fzx wrote
This says more about just how bad an investment shits of power was lmfao
ProFoxxxx t1_iukbw3x wrote
Didn't they massively overspend on expansion at exactly the wrong time?
VisualMod t1_iuht25m wrote