Submitted by keyjan t3_12649pg in washingtondc
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keyjan OP t1_je7hrwl wrote
Presumably as much as a security guard?
The_Sauce_DC t1_je7k01q wrote
They’ll have all the normal authority- the BID is contracting with the department for people to work off-duty overtime.
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PalpitationNo3106 t1_je7ns2l wrote
Amazing. MPD constantly says they don’t have enough officers to cover areas, but when you’re willing to pay the OT, all of a sudden they got you covered. $100/hour to sit in your cop suv and play candy crush? Not too shabby. Also fun fact! The BID is responsible for all the OT from any activity these police are involved in. Make an arrest? Four more hours of OT to take the person in and do the paperwork. Goes to trial? Paying to meet the prosecutors and testify? On the BID.
razmoe t1_je7ppt6 wrote
They have all the authority of an on-duty police officer, they just aren’t billing the department for their time.
Hope_Burns_Bright t1_je7rbyr wrote
Nothing bad has ever come from an off-duty officer parading around looking for threats. Never ever ever.
Gilyon01 t1_je7rfdc wrote
Most people would say that if your employees are working more than 40 hours a week to provide a service, then that employer doesn't have enough staffing.
techfinanceguy t1_je7rzw9 wrote
I can’t upvote this enough.
sandalwoodjenkins t1_je7s28u wrote
Nothing bad has ever come from not enough officers parading around looking for threats. Never ever ever.
PalpitationNo3106 t1_je7umtq wrote
Cops have always made OT. But instead of deploying them to places where there is actual violent crime, they’re deployed to the highest bidder. How does this protect and serve? You get police protection, if you can afford it? Will MPD be able to deploy more cops to neighborhoods experiencing high levels of violence? Or will they be restricted by having a contract to rent them out to someone else? You gonna go tell a neighborhood that has had a dozen murders this year that they can have more cops, it’s just $2k a night.
kkc0722 t1_je7uqwa wrote
Lol at the city doing everything except solve the problem: The Sportsbook is tanking Navy Yard and should be gone. Who could imagine why a bunch of criminally inclined people suddenly want to bring guns and congregate to a block where a bunch of out of towners frequently carry large amounts of cash?
shaunstudies t1_je7v1x3 wrote
ZonaPunk t1_je81czz wrote
I sometimes have a coffee at compass coffee and there is a group that hangs in the alley next to Buffalo Wild Wings all the time. Very weird dynamic with that group. Not the usual corner boy stuff of getting high or drunk. My guess is drug dealing and they also seem to working with someone inside the restaurant.
keyjan OP t1_je81r4f wrote
The tv spot on this interviewed a woman who works in one of the restaurants down there and she said she's very skeeved out leaving work after midnight with all the random people hanging around in clumps.
LoganSquire t1_je82xi9 wrote
But no sports book means no sweetheart deals for your cousin. And we can’t have that.
ChockBox t1_je844f1 wrote
How many more people will Bagshaw get to murder?
4RunnerPilot t1_je88op7 wrote
I thought all violent places wanted less police; wanted to defund them and replace with community interventionists. You are saying more police presence is good for communities?
Brozilean t1_je890hl wrote
Are they being replaced with other solution like you said? Or is the money just being used less efficiently in places that have rich people?
drr71-2 t1_je8arei wrote
If that's the officer that shot the guy at the Wharf, I guess it depends on how many more violent fellons whip out a gun in public and point it at someone while he's around.
ChockBox t1_je8fpg4 wrote
That he shoots in the back while intoxicated *fify
Okie_Muddy_30 t1_je8gj7b wrote
Have you ever worked? The BID needs extra hands and it pays for them, otherwise who, in your wise opinion, should pay the money?
BrightThru2014 t1_je8jgi4 wrote
The sports book at Grand Central has also made that stretch of 18th more sketchy. Talk about unintended consequences
BrightThru2014 t1_je8ji71 wrote
EthanFl t1_je8jv1l wrote
Dial 1-800-THE-COPS, accepting all major credit cards.
-Snow Crash
mooseondaloose0352 t1_je8kw76 wrote
…off duty?
Vegetable-Ratio-5857 t1_je8qvqg wrote
"Roughly a dozen businesses, organized by the Capitol Riverfront Business Improvement District, will pick up the tab" -- strange that these businesses would do this for a problem that some on here claim doesn't exist...
QueMasPuesss t1_je8t57q wrote
It’s crazy the unsavory characters sports betting brings in. Cuts across age and race lines too. Has changed any bar that features it for the worse really quickly.
drr71-2 t1_je8xh0u wrote
WTF are you referencing?
spanxsayswhaaa t1_je90c8h wrote
Oh you just called their bluff.
This is what they wanted until they realize violent crime is out of control and now they are begging for them back LMFAO
Kind_Mixture1649 t1_je980fk wrote
Why??? No one goes to jail anyway.
NoGovernment8587 t1_je9a8gg wrote
The sports book there and downtown are such a fucking blight. It’s bad enough that sports gambling has made sports unwatchable at times but now it’s ruining neighborhoods in real time. Such a bummer.
medievalmachine t1_je9bthu wrote
Pro tip: wait for someone to show up before you argue with them. It looks less crazy that way.
Fun facts: crime was down last year, it's up this year. This year is 3 months long. A small sample still.
webbmoncure t1_je9c0oy wrote
Yep. If the BID cash is paying for it, the richer neighborhoods get police and the poorer ones don’t. Crime gets worse EOTR and in traditionally underserved areas. History repeats itself.
DC-COVID-TRASH t1_je9dpyc wrote
It's advertising for dumb suburban "DC is a crime wasteland" folks
orville-redcocker t1_je9dt2a wrote
Next up we have a 4 hour block of law enforcement. How much am I bid for this beauty? Can I get a hunnert? Gotta hunnert can I getta 1 fifety? Hey now gotta 150 here can I getta 2 hunnert? Hey bidder now i got 200. You want your babies to be safe dontcha? Can I getta 2 hunnert fifety here now.
stracted t1_je9e9wx wrote
They make like 2-3x more usually too.
orville-redcocker t1_je9eby8 wrote
Cops bad. Innocent criminals good.
Salami2000 t1_je9egtg wrote
Crime was slightly down after two years of historic increases. You have to go back almost 20 years to find a worse year than 2021, and 2022 is barely better. The overall trend is that crime is way up, you're just playing games here.
One quarter of the year is not a small sample.
medievalmachine t1_je9gl70 wrote
Thanks for summarizing.
The_Sauce_DC t1_je9ho8f wrote
There’s plenty of mandatory overtime, forced doubles, and backfill going on in high-crime areas on the taxpayer’s dime and almost every summer many districts start canceling days off in the summer. There’s no shortage of government time. With the amount of cancelled days off and forced overtime many people work the equivalent of thirteen to fifteen months a year. The difference between this and a BID slot is that department overtime is on the taxpayers dime and you can be compelled to do it while BID overtime (and other details like the Nats) are voluntary and it’s privately funded. If you choose to do on your time it’s the officers decision.
Also- nobody is making $100 an hour- usually BID slots are straight time (ie whatever your normal wage is) or time and a half for a few hours a night. Most BID overtime guys aren’t looking to make lockups- they’re there for visibility and deterrence and if nothing pops off while they’re there than they’ve done their job and the BID is happy. If there is an arrest (likely Simple Assault, Unlawful Entry, theft, etc.) most never go to trial so court pay never happens. Besides, almost nobody loves Court here- it’s often on your day off or not your shift, and parking sucks compared to suburban court houses.
Deep_Stick8786 t1_je9i0fk wrote
Visible deterrent. Makes people move somewhere else
firewarner t1_je9izoi wrote
Such an insanely biased comment lmao
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sagarnola89 t1_je9oee6 wrote
$88/hr was the figure I saw. So more than I make as a consultant.
LetsAllSmoking t1_je9s3tt wrote
Guy pointing a gun at people in public gets shot by a cop
Dead guy (and you): :O
KillLaKillmonger t1_je9t7qp wrote
Well nothing bad has ever happened to the certain type of people that flood this subreddit. They can't relate.
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Gumburcules t1_jea04kw wrote
Interesting. Do you have any data that backs up your thought or are you just making stupid generalizations based off articles you only read the headlines of and random internet comments?
Gumburcules t1_jea0mi5 wrote
> strange that these businesses would do this for a problem that some on here claim doesn't exist..
Literally nobody is saying that crime doesn't exist...
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BoseSonic t1_jea6vkj wrote
It’s crazy to me that people physically go to sports books when it’s much easier to place bets from your phone
Hope_Burns_Bright t1_jeabjc9 wrote
According to the article, it's because people are "hanging around outside for no reason" which sounds so incredibly scary!!!!
The only incident cited is the shooting at Navy Yard metro, which was targeted and had nothing to do with the vewwy scawwy people standing around on the sidewalk.
One of these off-duty cops is going to start some shit for the wrong reasons and someone's ending up dead.
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Hope_Burns_Bright t1_jeazqtc wrote
Let's pretend that you're not a throwaway account with the sole purpose of being a contrarian troll on this subreddit.
For fucks sake it says "after some violent attacks in the area" without any attribution. What does "in the area" mean? Are the attacks random or targeted? Did they result in arrest? Just admit you don't want any of that data because you're satisfied with a couple of Lone Rangers shooting "undesirable" people in the street, Karen.
Goddamn, your addiction to Nextdoor has obliterated all literacy skills you may have had.
But sure, off-duty cops with less oversight than they already had will solve this! All the better to get those scary people who stand around on the sidewalk. Hey, got any spare boots I can lick? You seem like the expert.
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Hope_Burns_Bright t1_jeb24aq wrote
Calling me "unhinged" because you can't handle being wrong is loser behavior.
Go back to being a contrarian troll, you have nothing to contribute lmao
Cheomesh t1_jeb2t2m wrote
All Cop, All The Time
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Naive_Coast_8919 t1_jef45ej wrote
Not in DC. Only citywide option is Gambet and their laughable interface and odds. Blame the corrupt Council for giving them a no-bid sweetheart deal, I believe because a Gambet exec is related to McDuffie.
shaunstudies t1_je7hnyk wrote
Does an off-duty police officer have authority?