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Macrophage87 t1_ixd7fy1 wrote

Reply to comment by aoc_desantis_2024 in 'Ride For Your Life' Photos - Nov 19, 2022 ride from Bethesda to the Capitol by monkeyuprising

Only about a third of DC residents drive daily. Over a third don't even own a car. There's no way that the two-thirds of DC residents that don't drive daily are "upper middle class". Walking and biking is a transportation method for people of all income levels in DC. We can either prioritize walking, biking, and transit for the 2/3 of residents that rely on it, or the small majority of residents that drive.

https://dcist.com/story/14/01/21/over-37-percent-of-dc-households-do/

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gator_fl t1_ixdjmmm wrote

RIP to Langenkamp and I'm a big supporter of buses/trains/bikes.

But the DC Fiscal Policy Center did analysis and its deceptiveto say "...biking is a transportation method for people of all income levels in DC".

>"When it comes to public transportation, whites more frequently take the Metro; blacks more frequently take the bus. Only 5,765 black of African American residents walked to work in 2015, compared to 29,000 whites. Only about 1,900 black or African American residents biked to work; this is one fifth the frequency among whites."

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Macrophage87 t1_ixdlfhm wrote

Much of that can be attributed due to the poor transit and bike/ped accessibility east of the anacostia river. Ward 8 has half the traffic deaths for DC. These people absolutely should have good transit and bike accesibility, but keep voting for people who don't want that.

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gator_fl t1_ixe58ds wrote

Good points!

But it also is cultural. Cannot just say "make better bike transit options and they will come" or "get rid of so-and-so who blocks transit options".

DDoT and other agencies know that and are not investing in changing mindsets.

Hopefully a mindshift will take place. Orgs like WABA try but still hard to change peoples habits and opinions.

Until then, all these beautiful bike lanes and such will not be used by those who think it's silly to bike.

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veloharris t1_ixe3ndm wrote

The infrastructure isn't to a level that it's a viable alternative for many. It's a chicken and egg thing.

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gator_fl t1_ixe5x7r wrote

It's a cultural mindshift thing as well.

Lots of bike lanes have been developed (happy to see it) but some people don't take advantage of it...hence the inequity in infrastructure development.

Wish it wasn't the case, but it is an issue.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_ixeducy wrote

More people would use bike lanes if they didn’t have to be an adrenaline junkie with a deathwish to use them.

You ever visit the belt line in Atlanta? I’ve never seen so many pregnant mothers and children on bicycles. That’s because THEY DONT NEED TO INTERACT WITH CARS. I bet most of the car tards here would be against that too.

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veloharris t1_ixe6ns0 wrote

Bike modal use in DC has one of the highest year over year growth rates in the nation. However our network is still fairly incomplete, yet with every new part of the network usage increases.

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aoc_desantis_2024 t1_ixd8wyd wrote

So put that money towards buses and trains that actually take people to work. No more money for rich hobbyists.

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ertri t1_ixdek11 wrote

Ah yes, the rich hobbyists paying $95/yr for a capital bikeshare unlimited subscription. (Or just paying the $1-2 a ride)

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SgtPeppy t1_ixdl1vf wrote

It's so obvious you have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about. No idea about the economy of cycling. About why people might choose to do so over other options.

You should be promoting cycling along with buses and trains, if you're actually arguing in good faith about improved public transit. Why you've decided to die on this hill, I will never know.

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saucity t1_ixidhv6 wrote

They've been calling me a terrible person for asking about driving to DC, when I live in West Virginia, with ZERO infrastructure and no reliable public transport. What am I supposed to do... Cycle to DC from West Virgina, with a crippling disability...? 😂

They're obviously very privileged, full of hate, and they could have chosen kind words to get their point across, but instead, just woke up and chose violence, lol.

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aoc_desantis_2024 t1_ixdmkmm wrote

Because we have hundreds of miles of bike lanes and nobody uses them. Its very important for rich folks to show how green and cool they are on their bikes. I could care less about the image the Bethesda crowd wants to push. Money needs to go where it will be used. Buses, trains, and cars.

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SgtPeppy t1_ixdmsah wrote

> Its very important for rich folks to show how green and cool they are on their bikes

You've been told constantly why this is an incorrect assumption, yet you continue to mindlessly regurgitate it. Eat shit. You're beyond help.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_ixee340 wrote

>hundreds of miles of bike lanes

Oh my god literally every single square inch of public space in the city was for cars and you’re mad. Also “hundreds” implies at LEAST 200 and were just barely over 100. Youre so full of shit.

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