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rhizopogon t1_j26krgf wrote

Looks beautiful to me!

If you love protected bike lanes (and driving up the price of coleslaw) join us at r/bikedc

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Brawldud t1_j26x4h0 wrote

is the coleslaw thing a meme? i must know the source

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rhizopogon t1_j26xjk9 wrote

One of the anti bike lane people claimed that bike lanes made his Safeway coleslaw more expensive.

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Brawldud t1_j26xtrq wrote

ah here we go, found the source! Thanks for the tip.

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lizphiz t1_j282hde wrote

I didn't recognize the guy's name but knew it was that lunatic as soon as I read the tweet. He's the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks for finding the source post!

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YitharV3 t1_j2ai3nz wrote

Yeah, these look really amazing. I wish I had one of these where I live. There isn't even a bike path until Darnestown Road & Black Rock Road, and that bike path is just paint.

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thank_u_stranger t1_j265fsk wrote

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spince t1_j268byc wrote

Nick Delledonne's butthole making diamonds looking at this picture

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Formergr t1_j26sun8 wrote

They’re certainly taking over this sub. I love bikes but man it’s literally every other post these days.

Maybe some of this content can go to r/bikedc for those of us less obsessed?

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CharmingAbandon t1_j28mhwm wrote

Yeah, I don't get why bikers are always on here complaining about people attempting to murder them with their cars. Just be grateful that your near death experience helped someone arrive at their destination 24 seconds sooner.

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Working-Grapefruit42 t1_j2955hd wrote

Honestly bikers need better bike safety on their own part instead of blaming people in cars… they be speeding thru traffic with literally no protection around your body you have to understand that comes with bear death experiences… I say this as a person who has been tboned by a car that ran a red light while on my bike

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fvb955cd t1_j25t0bt wrote

Surprised they did this, my experience with moco is that if space needs to be made, they instinctively block and remove the sidewalk and bike lanes before any traffic lanes even if that means pedestrians have to detour 4+ blocks to get to an urban metro station.

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Profession-Life OP t1_j25tm2p wrote

True, though this is PG County in College Park. Same experience, though.

Interesting to see that it's only 1 lane in either direction, at rush hour, and traffic isn't backed up really at all.

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SkyeMreddit t1_j262hz1 wrote

There was a titanic fight due to the bike path as the Purple Line largely parallels a rail trail bike path. NIMBY’s used bicyclists to oppose the project. So they are being extra careful to not impede cyclists.

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MysticsWonTheFinals t1_j28xdf1 wrote

The bike path near Bethesda where that fight happened is blocked for construction, this is a county over

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SandBoxJohn t1_j27h9jf wrote

That argument was a straw man, as the original Georgetown branch railroad easement is just under three times the width of the foot print needed for the light rail tracks.

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SandBoxJohn t1_j27f09h wrote

Those precast concrete jersey barriers and orange plastic barriers are not cheap. The concrete is around $50.00 a linear foot, the plastic barriers are around $120.00 a linear foot.

They are there to protect the construction area from traffic. The orange plastic barriers are there to separate the walkway/bike path from the construction area.

The primary difference between the concrete and plastic, is the plastic functions as an attenuation barrier based on how much fluid or sand is put in it.

This is basically the same way the contractors separated pedestrians and traffic from each other during construction of Metrorail along the streets in DC back in the 1970s and 80s. The only difference being the concrete jersey barriers are used in place of heavy wood barricades and the orange plastic barriers are used in place of plywood fences.

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Profession-Life OP t1_j28x9y5 wrote

Thanks for the additional info. Yes, I see now that they aren't simply as cheap as raw concrete. I was probably conflating "quick and relatively simple to install" with "inexpensive".

I think my main point here is that this temporary solution is better for bicyclists and pedestrians than most permanent infrastructure, which I think is unfortunate.

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french-fry-fingers t1_j26uq0u wrote

The best part about this is that it keeps the cyclists from riding with the cars.

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YitharV3 t1_j2bw6id wrote

Uh, flip that. The barriers are supposed to keep the cars out, especially since a lot of drivers like parking in bike lanes.

Cyclists aren't the problem.

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NicholasAakre t1_j2abe46 wrote

Flip that framing around. The barriers aren't to keep the cyclists "in", they're to keep the cars "out".

Cyclists aren't the problem.

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SpeedysComing t1_j2eggaj wrote

Exactly, except reversed. A little less likely that another car driver will kill!

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sl8rfan2 t1_j267zr4 wrote

can't wait for the anti-bike neckbeards to get in here with: "but bikers don't pay taxes for roads" or some other nonsense.

where's that "bike mafia" nerd?

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Honest_Cynic t1_j298vrl wrote

Pretty narrow. I've ridden across the Golden Gate Bridge on a bike, using the west "sidewalk". You could barely glance at the view given the tight space with construction equipment (generators) at intervals, and oncoming bicyclists, plus distracting noise from vehicles racing by just over the rail. In this path, I would err toward the smooth plastic barriers unless wearing leather pants.

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Profession-Life OP t1_j29hg6t wrote

It was narrow, but I was able to slowly pass a pedestrian going in the opposite direction. Of course I would like it to be wider but sometimes I think we let perfection be the enemy of "good-enough".

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Neuro_88 t1_j267oy8 wrote

Looks expensive to me but much safer I would say.

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bigmesalad t1_j269x02 wrote

How is that expensive?

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giscard78 t1_j26dk1f wrote

literally a single penny not dedicated to my specific needs is wasteful government spending

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Neuro_88 t1_j26c0yk wrote

Getting the concrete, labor, tools, and supplies, and maintenance.

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Profession-Life OP t1_j26cltf wrote

Would be interesting to know the cost of this. Most od the materials here, such as concrete, would be sourced locally, too. So it's keeping money in the county which is good for taxpayers.

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rhefter t1_j26h1pg wrote

All concrete barrier you see that look like this is prefabricated. You order how many sections of barrier you want and you get it delivered on a flatbed truck to the site. It can be reused a lot depending on the skill of the operator setting the barrier (as if you do not set it correctly the edges can break/crack).

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Evaderofdoom t1_j270zgq wrote

You could Google it, it's not locally sourced and is 1300$ per 7 foot section not including labor or installation.

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Profession-Life OP t1_j2757jf wrote

Didn't consider that they were prefab. Just was thinking about them being made of concrete, which is often produced local to where it gets used.

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Neuro_88 t1_j26cw43 wrote

I do agree. Look how long it took the city to address 14th Street and H Street biking situations.

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Profession-Life OP t1_j26bp0n wrote

It's concrete barriers + a forklift to move it into place. Likely installs faster than those vertical plastic bookmark-looking things that drivers like to bulldoze over.

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ekkidee t1_j2a692m wrote

They don't look wide enough to accommodate two cyclists meeting.

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The_Bard t1_j2a7ty9 wrote

Is it really temporary if it's there until the purple line is finished? Only future generations will be able to answer this riddle.

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Profession-Life OP t1_j2aa93j wrote

Yes, I am stuck between wanting it not to change and wanting the Purple Line to be finished lol.

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