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godamen t1_j9yg106 wrote

Reply to comment by NewCanadianMTurker in Poland has delivered tanks to Ukraine, government announces on war's first anniversary. by Rifletree

Yea, if anyone knows what it's like to get fucked over, again and again and again it's Poland. I know there are inherent political reasons this is in Poland's interest, but I also believe there is a deep sense of "When we fell to tyranny, no one came to help, we won't let that happen to you" in the national memory.

Edit: Fixed grammar insecurities I had in my comment.

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HaloGuy381 t1_j9yqakd wrote

And more simply: “Fuck Russia” from Poland. Although sending your message at muzzle velocity from a tank cannon does make it a lot easier to hear.

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Darth_drizzt_42 t1_ja0yr4i wrote

No kidding. If Poland could've directly intervened on Ukraine's behalf without starting a NATO grade shitshow, you know they would've been in the airspace on day 0. They've been giving off that "bro just lemme at him!" Energy

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DamNamesTaken11 t1_ja174lf wrote

I’ve meet a few Polish people in my travels. Nice people (and great drinking buddies after the tour) but they hated Russia before this so I can’t imagine what they’re thinking now.

There’s a reason why after the missiles landed and killed the two farmers there were so many Polish Wojak Article 5 memes.

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NewCanadianMTurker t1_j9ygla3 wrote

It's good to see smaller countries helping protect each other from larger threats.

(And your use of quotes was indeed appropriate)

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chunkerton_chunksley t1_j9zwkeb wrote

Lithuania has been punching so far above their weight class it’s insane. If you look at who supports Ukraine the hardest, it’s countries who used to live under Russian/soviet boots. They know exactly what’s at stake

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TrixoftheTrade t1_ja02hhj wrote

"Today them, tomorrow us."

Putin's made it very clear that he considers not just Ukraine, but the entirety of the Soviet Union to be in the Russian "sphere of influence."

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TheBirdOfFire t1_ja196vu wrote

Former* Soviet Union

I know that's what you meant but with some Russians claiming that Ukraine isn't actually a legitimate sovereign country I feel the need to correct things like this.

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JustVGames t1_ja0sbw9 wrote

>t’s countries who used to live under Russian/soviet boots

Except Hungary. After USSR raped their country they still spoon feed pro-russian propaganda to their citizens.

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chunkerton_chunksley t1_ja0sqt5 wrote

and the gop had their clan/cpac meeting there and plan to do it again, says a lot doesnt it

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hotnindza t1_ja0enmm wrote

I agree, although neither Ukraine or Poland are small countries. Poland has around 50 million people, and Ukraine around 40 million, Russia has 130 million.

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syringistic t1_ja20jnh wrote

U're a bit off... Poland is down to about 38 Million.

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godamen t1_j9yh1mh wrote

Oh good, thanks! I guess I should probably take that last bit out then.

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Elephant789 t1_ja2m800 wrote

> (And your use of quotes was indeed appropriate)

I agree. I hate how reddit users use quotes nonchalantly to make up their hypothetical conversations which then confuses the reader into thinking that that was a real quote.

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VoraciousTrees t1_ja0zfu4 wrote

I mean, Poland had a very similar diplomatic situation a little over 100 years ago... If you ignore the fight for Lwow and Galicia.

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MarBoBabyBoy t1_j9zzxx7 wrote

> if anyone knows what it's like to get fucked over, again and again and again it's Poland

If you're referring to WW2, the Poles, along with their Western allies, fucked themselves more than anything.

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Diomedesnuts t1_ja04jt0 wrote

Please elaborate on how being invaded by both Germany and Russia counts as "fucking themself"

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MarBoBabyBoy t1_ja0k0y7 wrote

Poland supported Germany's invasion of Czechoslovakia and even took some Czech land for themselves after Germany invaded. Stalin offered Poland to allow Soviet troops into Poland in the event Germany invaded, as Hitler's foreign policy was obviously become more and more aggressive. The Poles flat out refused, even though Russia was the only real power that could come to Poland's aid if (and when) Germany invaded. Even Britain and France asked the Poles to allow Soviet troops in because they knew they couldn't do much if Germany invaded.

The Western allies screwed themselves because of their appeasement of Hitler. Stalin viewed the appeasement as the allies aligning with Germany to destroy Russia. Russia wasn't even invited to the Munich Agreement even though giving Hitler Czechoslovakia (Sudetenland) made it easier for Germany to invade Russia.

So after basically be shunned by their supposed "allies" Stalin did the next best thing and signed a non-aggression pact with Germany.

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Duffelson t1_ja2298y wrote

Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

The Nazi Germany and Soviet Union had LITERALLY divided poland before the first shot was fired.

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MarBoBabyBoy t1_ja2qa71 wrote

This was made AFTER the West shunned the Soviets. Before that, Russia and the West were allies.

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dudefromthepast3 t1_ja36gqy wrote

> and even took some Czech land for themselves after Germany invaded

Hmm, i wonder what Czechoslovakia did when Poland was fighting soviet russia in 1919.

> The Poles flat out refused, even though Russia was the only real power that could come to Poland's aid

Tell me what Russia did, when Estonia, Latvia AND Lithuania allowed russian troops in 1940

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beerandabike t1_ja05ig0 wrote

As the original comment mentions “again” 3x, it’s a lot longer than just WW2. Poles have been harassed from the East for a very long time, many times.

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Ludwigofthepotatoppl t1_ja066vs wrote

Seeing how Russia’s come between Poland and Hungary after centuries of dear friendship helps illustrate just how much Poland hates Russia.

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