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newnemo t1_jduogvc wrote
Yeah, Netanyahu proved his resolve when he fired the Defense minister. Any 'pause' likely won't quell protests has he has shown his hand and that he can't be trusted.
I hope some important government resignations follow the defense minister firing that will force an election.
SalsaBueno t1_jdux178 wrote
Or he’ll just appoint loyalists to fill the vacancies.
Which outcome seems more likely?
[deleted] t1_jdv0l8z wrote
Someone said it takes four firings/resignations to trigger an election
grapehelium t1_jdvbenn wrote
to be a bit more precise, bibi has 64 seats in the 120 seat knesset. So 4 defections would produce a tie. Some legislation requires an absolute majority, i.e 61+ votes, IIRC, in order to dissolve the knesset, or setup a new government, they need 61 votes - Although I may be wrong on this point.
SalsaBueno t1_jdv0s5g wrote
And ol Bibi has been following the law precisely, yes? Spirit AND letter?
takeitineasy t1_jdv3gin wrote
I'm worried he's doing this to buy time. He expects people to relax, get a bit more comfortable, meanwhile he's regrouping and looking for more backup. The protestors should not go home yet, unfortunately.
ErikETF t1_jdwe7st wrote
He's pivoting to Pause til he can have a police force capable of crushing the protests.
Karpattata t1_jdv92pf wrote
The coalition seems rather unlikely to survive even a pause. Some of the children in it (Ben Gvir) are throwing hissy fits over the very idea.
susyarok t1_jdviql5 wrote
That is why we are not stopping the demonstrations! He is a liar, liar, liar!!
HighwayTerrorist t1_jdyzbv8 wrote
He’s not a liar. He might stop.. the question is.. for how long until he’s at it again?
susyarok t1_je4mp3j wrote
Do you live in Israel?
HighwayTerrorist t1_je761cf wrote
No I don’t.
dubblix t1_jdvcun8 wrote
Didn't his first campaign run on a two state solution and then immediately say no way once elected?
halee1 t1_jdw9nzd wrote
Just read that the judicial "reform" attempt was postponed to July. No time to give up yet, unfortunately.
vriska1 t1_jduehr1 wrote
Seems like the firing of Defense Minister Gallant was a major miscalculation, I wonder if Netanyahu coalition will even survive seeing there already talk that his far-right coalition partners will bring down the government if he suspend this meaning new elections.
riodoro1 t1_jduuacj wrote
The Israelis will just reelect him then.
yoaver t1_jdv0heo wrote
Polls show the judicial reform stint cost him the (already fragile) majority he had
Command0Dude t1_jdw5rtm wrote
Absolutely maddening that far right wingers in many countries can try to ram through wildly unpopular legislation or other chicanery but when time comes for election they either win or very narrowly lose because people just don't turn out to actually vote.
"Voting doesn't matter" is the greatest psyop of the 21st century. Whoever came up with this media campaign to encourage voter apathy is an evil genius.
vriska1 t1_jdwpmqq wrote
Why do you think that?
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uriar t1_jduck3m wrote
"According to a Likud lawmaker, Netanyahu is expected to announce halt to legislation because his attorney threatened to stop representing him"
Alexdoh t1_jduur6t wrote
Give it a bit of time to get someone else on retainer.
Bibi won't give up this easily.
gankindustries t1_jduj8pb wrote
Really hoping his party turns on him after this insane stunt.
Longwalk4AShortdrink t1_jdvu6dd wrote
I'm pretty sure there's a sizable amount of people in his party that are pushing this reform too
RapedByPlushies t1_jdwnoed wrote
I imagine it’d be difficult to do it alone. I feel like this is something more like an internal coup.
LeoGoldfox t1_jdusv4b wrote
"Is expected to suspend" and "to suspend" are two very different meanings.
flukshun t1_jduzq3m wrote
"Suspend" and "abandon" are 2 different things as well
OhGreatItsHim t1_jdv7q2k wrote
yea. Suspended it until things die down then quickly pass it.
porncrank t1_jdvn8vu wrote
Don't be fooled -- he knows what he's doing. He'll figure out the right wording, the right timing, and get what he wants in a way that will minimize challenges to his power. He's an authoritarian and he will never just let go of something he wants.
Malthus1 t1_jdvpgjm wrote
My take is that if he knew what he was doing, he would never have gotten into this position. To my mind, he’s very seriously misjudged the public reception to his grab for power.
I think he’s hoping to buy time, to see if he can salvage his position. I doubt that buying time will work for him, though, as his coalition is likely to fall if he’s seen as weak and vacillating.
This gives me hope that he’s between a rock and a hard place. Though who knows, he’s survived a lot of upheavals before.
sharingsilently t1_jdv25p7 wrote
“Even McDonalds announced it was closing its stores Monday”… for the general strike.
We have a new metric! Waffle House restaurant closings in the US is used as a metric for natural disaster severity, now we know how to track the damage to democracy! If your government has gone full-dictatorship, check out McDonalds status; if they are closed, the govt has gone too far, and will soon fall.
MijTinmol OP t1_jdv8prr wrote
Tbh McDonald's here is quite progressive, the local franchisee doesn't open branches in the occupied territories (the West Bank).
MajCassiusStarbuckle t1_jduzv42 wrote
Rightwing ideologies are incompatible with liberty, equality, and democracy and will inevitably attempt to destroy them
beavis617 t1_jdvbwr3 wrote
Proud of those who took to the streets and stood up to this tyrant..👏
drowningfish t1_jduox2f wrote
What I don't understand is that this Plan was well known during the elections and yet his Far Right Party swept right back into power with an almost resounding "yes" from the voters.
What am I missing here?
Vladik1993 t1_jdurl2h wrote
Because like already mentioned, they mention a reform. Not THIS one, though. Not THIS way. During the election, it wasn't known that this will be based on Kohelet's instructions, it wasn't known they will be taking notes from Hungary and Poland.
MijTinmol OP t1_jduqfpd wrote
>an almost resounding "yes"
- It wasn't that much resounding, it's just that many votes were thrown away because they were given to parties outside Netanyahu's faction that failed to cross the electoral threshold.
- This plan wasn't completely known during the elections, and even some who support the overhaul in principle, are uncomfortable with the aggressive way it's being legislated, without halting for a moment to address the concerns of the other side.
Gluske t1_jdup8r2 wrote
His support hinges on a coalition and his own people have withdrawn their support following the mass protests, putting everything on shaky ground
yoaver t1_jdv0s0u wrote
A reform to aspects of the Israeli judiciary is still considered necessary by many as the system is somewhat unbalanced. BUT, this "reform", that is practically a coup, was not spoken about by anyone.
Cobby1927 t1_jdvaert wrote
Continue the strikes until Bebe tRump resigns.
Wwize t1_jdvbc9p wrote
Netanyahu has no choice but to end the overhaul because of the massive strike that includes businesses closing to support the strike. A strike by workers and businesses together is unheard of. Normally businesses are on the opposite end of the strike. This is checkmate for Netanyahu. Once he stops the overhaul, his coalition will fall because the extremists will leave the coalition. He's done.
AFlyingFig t1_jdw653l wrote
One choice is suspending the coup for a few months so the public lets their guard down. In the meantime, he can regroup with a propaganda campaign, organize gangs of thugs to deter protesters and purge key positions of any dissidents by simply firing them or by blackmailing them.
Wwize t1_jdw8en6 wrote
Which is why I don't think these protests will stop merely because they postponed the judicial overhaul. The protests are not going away until Netanyahu resigns.
susyarok t1_jdvim9g wrote
Suspending is not enough! He must resign!
MidniteMogwai t1_jdvtwvj wrote
Translation: they’re going to find a more subtle, secretive, means by which to achieve the same end.
SalsaBueno t1_jduwu80 wrote
He gonna give that guy his job back?
VegasKL t1_jdvtljh wrote
Now resign.
beetrootdip t1_jdw1zzk wrote
Can we not call it a ‘judicial overhaul plan’ and call it what it is? A dictatorship
CYTTO66 t1_jdwab2p wrote
He wants to buy time for the situation to calm down and then he can return to legislation. He wants to discourage the protesters and opponents.
Luanda62 t1_jdwbrv2 wrote
He needs to step down!
Rylee_1984 t1_jdwdk82 wrote
Needs to be withdrawn. The delay is just for them to get a better handle on the security challenges now that they know this will be massively unpopular and cause huge protests and strikes
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d20wilderness t1_jdw6kk6 wrote
It's people like him that pop up in governments around the world that give me little hope in those in power. General strikes seem to be the only thing that really does anything.
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haunted_tuna t1_jdwp448 wrote
How about do it BEFORE the protests end.
Emotional-Coffee13 t1_jdx5082 wrote
That was fast & proof the people do have the power to implement change We can learn from this & from Germany the UK & France all facing the largest protests strikes & unrest in decades
disdainfulsideeye t1_jdy3r93 wrote
"Overhaul" makes it sound somewhat legitimate.
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MijTinmol OP t1_jdv8jiu wrote
Report me for what? It was the news report at the time, when Netanyahu was supposed to give a statement. He then changed his mind. You can't change the title of a post after you posted it.
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grapehelium t1_jdujod7 wrote
I'll believe it when it happens. Netanyahu has made plenty of coalition promises in the past, and then when the time came to implement them he was unwilling/unable to. He did this often enough that a lot of politicians would not trust him, and that led to the last round of 4-5 elections Israel experienced.
Even if he stops the legislation now, he could also just start it up again in a few months. So is this a pause, or a cancellation, and even if it is a cancellation, can he be trusted?