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comeonwhatdidIdo t1_iyc8qng wrote

Hey dont interfere. I am trying to bully them.

Fuck the CCP.

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ritz139 t1_iycbfni wrote

How are they bullying?

Did they bring guns to a melee fight or something?

Or do you know where the border line between those two countries are?

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycc9w0 wrote

Bullying is not the right word, But Indian and American interests allign when it comes to China. The current strategic discourse goes like this - "China Gay"

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comeonwhatdidIdo t1_iyccuil wrote

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes

They have expansionist policy, even Bhutan was affected. The attacks were completely unnecessary as the space between the two countries LAC was militarised after decades of calm. Not to mention all this in the height of a pandemic.

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comeonwhatdidIdo t1_iychinr wrote

The dispute started when china encroches on mutual patrol points between both the countries in the LAC in ladakh. Patrol points are in no mans land. While china did not technically enter the Indian LAC maybe true(still there are de-escalation going on), it has also broken the lines of engagement by encroaching into these patrol points. Even after the clashes and escalation China has permanently built structure into the no man's land.

Why was there a push of hostilities during covid also the rethoric from CCP was agressive and manufacturing war like rethoric in its newspapers. Both countries people were dying in thousands and was this the time for China to do this?

There were 20 Indian soldiers who died, for what a 1km incursion into a point in No Mans land? What is China trying to get here? Other than try to bully?

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PerformerAbject62 t1_iyccjrb wrote

Lmao so the borderline they don't agree on is contested.

They also have dammed a bunch of rivers running into India. Which as water scarcity becomes worse is terrible for india.

Not to mention the economic disparity.

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Quexana t1_iye6cnm wrote

Google "Strings of Pearls strategy"

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macross1984 t1_iyc82im wrote

And what is China going to do about it if US "meddle" in this matter?

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycdgbq wrote

I am not China but here is what I would do if I was China -

Cause border conflicts in India

Spread propaganda in the West that since India didn't help the West in Ukraine, The West shouldn't help India

West sends no aid to to India, So indians become angry

Spread propoganda in India that the West has always been anti-Indian and they haven't forgotten their colonial mentality

Effectively cripple every single alliance Indian and The West have at the cost 2-3 Chinese soldiers and maybe a 100 million dollars for the propaganda.

Laugh maniacly.

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Deicide1031 t1_iyckzma wrote

The issue is that people may believe that but the American government would salivate at an opportunity like that. Early Ukraine invasion for people watching you could see disinformation spreading around saying that we shouldn’t interfere with Ukraine for whatever reason. It didn’t work, for the reason I just stated. The US government has consistently never given up an opportunity to poke around big competitors, irregardless of what the people may think. You’ll have to be more creative then this.

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Key_Working4907 t1_iyculo5 wrote

I'm sorry, but did you just type out the word irregardless?

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JaydDid t1_iydnoyk wrote

It’s not wrong, and sometimes sounds better

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Key_Working4907 t1_iydrb9b wrote

It absolutely does not sound better and it is wrong. It is a double negative. Irregardless means not regardless and I'm sick of language changing to match our degrading abilities.

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JaydDid t1_iydsn7k wrote

It is a word though, and it’s not some new slang. Does it make sense? Not necessarily, but there are plenty of words in the English language that don’t follow the set standard. It’s sure as hell not worth getting upset over, and I don’t think any opinion is absolute.

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Key_Working4907 t1_iye1kw6 wrote

If you typed out the word ain't I would say the same thing, it doesn't even abbreviate the word isn't.. Get my point? I wasn't angry or trying to insult.

My point was the fact that they typed out the entire word.. You have to admit that's different than saying it.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycg56w wrote

Which is funny because I am Indian

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comeonwhatdidIdo t1_iyemo8g wrote

Yeah, US has reacted badly post Indian diplomatic stand. They have allowed military aid for Pakistan, then sent their diplomat to a contested territory. When India doesn't tow either American or Chinese intrest they make Pakistan to do it's dirty work.

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AlphaMetroid t1_iycwfba wrote

It would have to be pakistan/india border conflicts. More skirmishes between China and India won't help their already strained relationship. It's also a big 'if' that the west wouldn't help if it was china initiating the skirmishes

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nokappa1 t1_iycklvq wrote

>didn't help the West in Ukraine

They basically baited Ukraine to go to war with their own resources for US' benefit. I think that's beyond not helping.

Then there was also their awkward involvement in Taiwan and HK (largely a domestic matter for China.

As much as I don't think China is right, sometimes the rationale of US involvement is beyond me (at least I'd put it that way).

>West sends no aid to to India

Pretty probable.

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Adsuppal t1_iyc8wvw wrote

India must feel good about getting courted by US, China and Russia at the same time.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycb3q4 wrote

It's actually a very dangerous game, If India angers the West It's economy and Geopolitcal situation is fucked, If it angers China it's economy and Geopolitical situation is fucked, If it angers Russia it's Economy is safe but Geopolitics is massively fucked.

It's interesting also in the fact that Historically, Both China and the US have never been Indian allies, yet angering them hurts India the most but Russia has been an ally and hurting them would pain the least.

Indian people also don't share much interests with Western citizens, other than capitalism and Being Anti-China. Plus there is common rhetoric in India that after the West has 'dealt' with China, India will be next on the chopping block. There is fundemental distrust of the West in India especially in Western hegemony, and most Westerns do have the idea that 'India' is just an alliance of convienience and Indias history of Western allignment is almost none. Suffice to say both sides have good reasons to distrust the other side and the Ukraine war shows that Cold War scars are still remembered by India and 'gotten over' by the West.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycfp56 wrote

English speakers make up 10% of Indian population. That's 140 million English speakers. That mean that the 1.2 billion Indians that dont speak English don't consume American media.

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navneet2131 t1_iycgk59 wrote

if you think there's nothing in common then that's okay but don't speak on the behalf of a billion people.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iycmc9k wrote

Alright that's a fair point. Also I am not saying there is nothing in common, So much as there is alot working against an Indo-Western alliance.

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vegasea t1_iyd2qca wrote

That's rather presumptuous of you. Maybe they consume with subtitles. I watched Squid Games and Parasite and I don't speak Korean.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd61pk wrote

I'll put it like this - in India there is no lack of entertainement industry or cultural expression, Unlike most countries most Indians consume Indian Movies and TV shows. The box office hits of most of India are always Indian movies with the only exception ever being Avatar and Endgame. Fun fact - India produces 2000 movies a year, That's more than the rest of the world combined.

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Choice_Celebration52 t1_iye3r72 wrote

It’s not quantity it’s quality ld rather watch one movie I enjoy rather than 100 movies I don’t.

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introdittor t1_iydhei1 wrote

dude ever heard of dubbing.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iydvg5i wrote

Yes dubbing does occur, Not many see dubs though. There is tough competition for Cinema culture in India unless you are some Big movie by hollywood standards you are barely going to be noticed in India.

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nopedoesntwork t1_iycgjzf wrote

> Russia has been an ally

The (previous) communist party has been an ally as the UK/US (not "the west") bullied India. This communist party was the enemy of the KGB - the guys who run Russia today.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd0ieo wrote

Alright just explain to me why you Westerners keep trying to reduce the Indo-Russian relationship? It's always weird that you guys say that - "Russia didn't help India, It was the USSR', " Russia didn't help India, It was the Comunist government that did" And "Russia was not an Indian ally it was just a coincidence". Its like saying that the West and Japan are not allies it's just or like the West and SK are not allies. Just denying the history won't suddenly fix it.

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nopedoesntwork t1_iyd7wmq wrote

The problem is that the Indian government is using this argument as a convenient excuse to support a criminal, authoritarian regime, that doesn't do it's people nor the world any good when in reality there is no obligation at all what so ever, but only economic interest.

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AngryAmericanGoral t1_iyca7jc wrote

Nice troll account

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alpha_dk t1_iycgf2x wrote

Wait... So you're telling me America will treat countries like allies unless they start working against American interests, when America will stop supporting them? How scandalous

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd0pqk wrote

American interests keep changing though right? So isn't that exactly what - " We will use you till you are useful and then dispose of you means? "

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alpha_dk t1_iyd0zk0 wrote

Yes, times change. And if a country chooses not to change with it, and instead starts "challenging" their previous allies like OP suggested, then it's natural those allies would stop supporting them.

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Longjumping_Meat_138 t1_iyd1el4 wrote

But what exactly did the Kurds or Afghans do to not suddenly be enemies of the US? Even China has not made a single aggressive move against a recognised US ally (Albeit Taiwan does count, So this one may slide). I don't want to defend China, But it's not like they started a trade war yo delibrately weaken the other side.

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alpha_dk t1_iyd25ch wrote

Well, in the case of Kurds, you'll have to mention a specific group because we don't ally with ethnicities, and as far as I know we still support many of our Kurdish allies.

In the case of Afghans, they're not our enemies - however, they largely decided not to fight an invading Taliban army. So it seems like allowing the Taliban to take over is actually how we supported them in what they want. As it turns out, the country wasn't willing to fight the Taliban, and America is more than willing to let them do that so long as we don't think it will lead to more attacks on America. They'll have to live with the results, not much we can do about it.

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nokappa1 t1_iycczlr wrote

Is this a case of US trying to play big brother once again?

Pretty consistent across its relationship with other countries, e.g. Ukraine.

I don't necessarily agree with what China does but at least they're not hypocritical about it.

US manipulates its currency but puts others on a monitoring programme for doing so.

US has surveillance through its networks but bans out Huawei for alleged backdoors built in (which weren't proven).

Amongst many others... definitely noticeable after paying some attention.

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bf4lyf t1_iyceys3 wrote

“Might is right” is the ideology that governs our species.

Nothing wrong with what the USA does. China and anybody else does the same wherever they can get away with it.

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nokappa1 t1_iycjrzy wrote

>“Might is right” is the ideology that governs our species.

Well, borrowing a metric fuckton of money and spending it on the military instead of the citizens fits into that ideology you mentioned as well, but I don't think it's going too well for the people there either, is it?

>Nothing wrong with what the USA does. China and anybody else does the same wherever they can get away with it.

I could agree with you in that there's nothing wrong, seeing that I'm not a citizen of said country, but US citizens requiring support and not getting it seem to disagree with us.

It's quite the scary thought that the "strongest" country on this planet is working on the basis of credibility alone at this point (USD's no longer tied to gold as we all know), with excessive spending in their military forces to back them up in order to basically be a barbarian to others who may threaten their position as #1.

Of course, what do I know?

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bf4lyf t1_iydtj5n wrote

Im not saying that the ideology is a good thing for humanity. But humanity has always been governed by it, and it is true even today.

People just like to pretend that they are too ethical to follow it

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sonoma95436 t1_iycf9nx wrote

China already has border conflicts with India.

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D8able403 t1_iyct9s2 wrote

China needs to worry about their own domestic issues like zero covid policy and riots within before they worry about other countries.

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Nekaz t1_iydu9hy wrote

No one else allowed in the billionaires club

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LookMommyIDidIt t1_iyc84kq wrote

Dude, in high school we used to call her the Chinese finger cuff.

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autotldr t1_iycahmc wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 63%. (I'm a bot)

> China has warned American officials not to interfere in its relationship with India, the Pentagon has said in a report to the Congress.

> Throughout its standoff with India along the Line of Actual Control, Chinese officials sought to downplay the severity of the crisis, emphasising Beijing's intent to preserve border stability and prevent the standoff from harming other areas of its bilateral relationship with India, the Pentagon said in a report on Tuesday.

> "The PRC seeks to prevent border tensions from causing India to partner more closely with the United States. PRC officials have warned U.S. officials to not interfere with the PRC's relationship with India," the Pentagon said in its latest report to the Congress on Chinese military buildup.

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