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BeltfedOne t1_j6jw7mz wrote

Iran needs to experience a "fuck around and find out" moment. Larger than the other night. Their assistance to Russia is utterly unacceptable, among their other numerous provocations. Leaving their internal slaughter of innocents to the side for the moment.

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DarkWangster t1_j6jwo0n wrote

Who exactly is going to hit Iran? The West isn't right about to start a war with Iran. And as an ally of Russia it makes sense that they are aiding them in this war. Ukraine doesn't have the resources to really pick a fight with Iran right now much like Russia can't pick a fight directly with the countries aiding Ukraine.

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ntbananas t1_j6k09pk wrote

Israel most likely. Maybe Saudi Arabia with the support of some other Gulf states

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dogeimistic t1_j6k2qte wrote

We're getting into ww3 territory here.

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MSTRMN_ t1_j6morgd wrote

Lol, how is going to be a "world war" when the only adversary will be Iran?

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Beautiful_Ad_3402 t1_j6kewp5 wrote

I mentioned WW3 and got about 30 downvotes on this forum lol, hope is a hell of a drug. Be prepared, good luck and my best wishes to everyone

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LayneLowe t1_j6llg5s wrote

Well a regional war, non NATO. Probably just drones, covert and cyber.

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Just_a_follower t1_j6k2976 wrote

This guy knows what’s up. Israel and Saudi can also both deflect at each other . I Dunno who it could have been Supreme Leader. Who has reason to not like you ? 🤷‍♂️

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Odd-Koala1290 t1_j6kt5mr wrote

Most countries are involved in arms sales for profit. Iran is still a sovereign nation.

Accusing one country of international war crimes when you and your allies are doing the same thing is tired. Let's just hope Iran and Russia don't start any "shock and awe" offensives any time soon.

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BeltfedOne t1_j6ktmmk wrote

You are aware that would be suicide for both nations?

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Odd-Koala1290 t1_j6kucd6 wrote

Ya, if Russia launched as many missiles at civilian targets (with help from Iran), as the US did at the start of the Gulf war II (operation shock and awe) the western media would call for intervention. Too bad Iraq didn't have western media on their side.

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adventure_in_gnarnia t1_j6lyv41 wrote

Fundamentally, how is Iran selling Russia weapons any different than NATO arming Ukraine?

Not defending Russia/Iran, but if you want to escalate providing weapons to direct involvement the implications are clear what that means.

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EternalPinkMist t1_j6m1c8a wrote

Assisting someone in self defense is generally not frowned upon while assisting in unprovoked murder is.

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gbgonzalez923 t1_j6m5zwm wrote

How is the guy who helped the murderer shoot kids at school any different from the guy who helped kill the murderer? They're both doing the same thing

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ChadorLondo t1_j6k5gje wrote

Exactly. Israel already has stealth F-35s and a competent air force that already successfully destroyed nuclear reactors before. Why aren't they dealing with Iran decisively considering they are an inch away from a nuclear bomb?

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valvaro t1_j6kmxly wrote

That is what you call invading... the last thing anyone need at the moment

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Sweet-Sale-7303 t1_j6kfygp wrote

Didn't they use drones to do exactly that recently?

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ChadorLondo t1_j6kizmt wrote

No they only hit some drone producing factory. The nuclear plant itself is buried under a mountain and I'm afraid drones can't do much to it.

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neverfarts t1_j6m5579 wrote

Because the iranian nuclear program is light years ahead of the Iraqi one. Some of it is buried so deep, only the US's biggest of bombs, deliverable only by US strategic bombers stand a chance of destroying it. Israel can't execute this all alone, as they did in Iraq and Syria. So until American support and active engagement is guaranteed, nothing on such scale will happen.

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AltNationReality t1_j6jwr1p wrote

As much as I would like to agree with you..... the US and EU are doing the same thing. (And I get it... russia is the aggressor..... but.....)

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Feynnehrun t1_j6jy733 wrote

Coming to the defense of a sovereign nation against an illegal aggressor is not "the same thing" as supplying arms to an illegal aggressor and assisting them in their murder of civilian populations.

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AltNationReality t1_j6k9nrc wrote

Yes, I get it.. I said so. But attacking another country because they're supplying arms is a bit too far. You're suggesting opening up a new front in this world war. Don't stop at iran... NK and China are also supplying arms and logistics. Are you suggesting that they "get some" also?

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Feynnehrun t1_j6kbjkj wrote

>You're suggesting opening up a new front in this world war.

I was suggesting no such thing.

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derverdwerb t1_j6m89gf wrote

This is essentially the core role for Patriot in this conflict, it's a pretty good anti-ballistic missile system. It is limited, though, by quite short range against ballistic missile threats because of their speed and trajectory. Just speculating, but this specific type of threat (and endogenous Russian ballistic missiles) is probably the intended target for Patriot.

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> Russian forces say they have made slight territorial gains in intense fighting in Ukraine's east amid reports Moscow has moved additional forces to the Kursk region on the border with Ukraine to protect the frontier and ensure security.

> Ukraine has been calling on its Western allies to speed up deliveries of heavy weaponry promised in recent weeks as it tries to hold on to territory in the east amid Russia's overpowering advantage.

> Zelenskiy on January 30 joined Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen on a visit to southern Ukraine.

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chilu0222 t1_j6k1zqa wrote

People don't realise that is war starts between Israel and Iran then Ukraine is fucked. Because Israel is more important than to the west than Ukraine.

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Lisardgy t1_j6k4niv wrote

The question is if Israel would need help from the west in case of war with Iran.

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xfd696969 t1_j6lyii6 wrote

Israel would of course take help in the form of weapons like Ukraine is getting. I'm not entirely sure Iran wants this though, as it would be mean Hezb getting destroyed and them losing significant cold power. Although, I'm not a huge political buff but that's just what I see happening. Once Hezb does anything, it gives Israel the chance to remove the biggest threat. It also means that I'm in danger because I live near the border

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risketyclickit t1_j6k6x3w wrote

The US can fight two wars at once. This has been our doctrine since Roosevelt. We can certainly supply Israel and Ukraine. If it breaks out Iran's weapons won't be hurting Ukraine any longer, and Iran's nuclear facilities can finally be reduced to rubble.

And...the people of Iran can throw out the mullahs.

Win win win

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Phssthp0kThePak t1_j6ks4rk wrote

Can we fight China at the same time, too? A war in the Persian gulf would cut off oil and things around the world will begin to spiral out of control.

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3klipse t1_j6l8o72 wrote

Iran doesn't have a navy to cut off shipping in the Persian gulf, so that shouldn't be an issue. Torpedo boats and mines may play a larger issue but we dealt with that before.

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Phssthp0kThePak t1_j6lmf8p wrote

Sink one tanker with drones or bomb on a raft. Shippers and insurers will stop traffic.

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EternalPinkMist t1_j6m1i5t wrote

The USA has other allies that produce oil. It will be a domestic issue but they would not run out because of it. Plus the potential for explosive profits due to war time issues would mean a lot of non-opec nations would be happy to ship whatever oil they don't need for a quick buck.

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