Bro, this... Lets not forget Montclair literally tried to secede from Essex County because their taxes went to propping up Newark (yet we give up valuable real estate for the court house, the sheriff's department, the prison, the energy industry, etc that literally allows that town to function without ever having to give up any of its land to nontaxable uses).

Its just annoying to hear wealthy suburbanites complain that newark is too poor and not worth going to visit, but once we start working on becoming a place that people would like to spend some time in, its we dont care for the poor.

Also, its funny being called a shill for developers when anyone who has been here over the last few years knows I literally got into months long debates with some who defected to another Newark reddit page because I was deemed too development unfriendly just because I supported more affordable housing initiatives/even stricter forms of the current law.

Ahh yes, because Philly doesn't have apartments for rent for 2K.

You also fail to point out that Philly's economy and region is also considerably worst and poorer than North Jersey and lower NY...or the fact that Philly is a more dangerous city than Newark.

Is 2500 for a studio a bit pricey for some in Newark, yes, but its still way below market rate for a city/town in the NJ/NY region. We should be building more housing for the poorer residents, im not arguing with you there, but we also shouldn't just be grouping only poor people in the city. There is a reason for that poverty rate and it starts with the low incomes of residents which makes the city unattractive to businesses that could provide a decent living for many.

Literally, what the fuck dude. I never said I wanted this city to be New York, but I can always want better for my city like more nightlife, more businesses downtown, a larger tax base so we can actually continue to improve the quality of life for everyone that lives here, support better schools, etc.

But sure, I have a chip on my shoulder over NYC... if I wanted NYC I can be there in 20 minutes, no reason for Newark to be that.

If you want Newark to continue to be a high crime city, a place where half its population never has a chance at a decent life, absentee slum lords, etc then just say that cause it's one thing to be excited about the fact that this city is growing and another to want Newark to push out people... im the former not that latter

No, but im also someone who doesn't want Newark to just be economically depressed and a place people don't spend time in.

It's a great city and deserves its time in the sun.

I get that it's not the most friendly place to cross, but people do it every day without incident and just for reference, crossing over to Chelsea piers is the same experience, yet people gladly pay 6k in rent to live near that highway because of the amenities nearby.

Shaq 2 will be no different

I mean, you are also across the street from one of the country's busiest train stations, 5 minutes away from the 4th busiest arena, and a short work to on NJ's premier foodie neighborhoods and urban neighborhoods... while also having 24 hour access to Manhattan/Brooklyn/Queens... its a great location at a fraction of the price for a similar apartment in another city with the same amenities right outside your door

I mean sure, but the Path literally bypasses one of NJ's most densely populated neighborhoods in the Ironbound, and any light rail connection with HBLR would help alleviate traffic in a part of town that is super congested. The path is great, but it doesnt provide any services to a part of Newark that really needs it

Plus, NY politicians took join in saying NJ residents would never have a 2.75 train ride into NYC... completely forgetting the path.

Light rail is only called that because of its passenger capacity. It can actually run at speed of heavy rail like the Path and MTA. Just ride the Newark Subway Line after peak hours and you will be on trains that are booking it from downtown to Bloomfield.

If your issues is headways, Newark's subway (the older of the two lines in the light rail system) runs every 3 to 5 minutes within Newark's borders during rush hour and every 10 minutes during the off peak business hours, before transitioning to every 20 minutes until 11pm. This extension would probably just follow that style as this is being proposed to relieve congestion, and having shitty service won't alleviate anything.

Yet Path, when it has the pre-pandemic ridership, is literally bursting at the seams and the cities on the line continue to build. It needs relief. Redundancy is not a bad thing if it has a purpose to exist.

Idk, they should... but I know when I did uber I always enjoyed the trips to NYC because of the huge pay from it (but I was just doing it part time so didn't care as much)

Yes, but just looked at this Saturday's schedule and it's back to a 40 minute schedule... so idk what the hell was that... was it a test run or was service on the Newark line delayed and they ran those to make up... idk, but I know I was super confused

Look, im happy we have a 24 hrs train from Manhattan that connects easily to most of the mta lines and i don't really care about waiting for trains as late night trains are always a mess...but I hate that they just cut services and don't fucking tell people or try to put them back... it reminds me of when they almost cut the overnight and weekend trains in 2015 and then decided against it and this smells of them just trying to slowly cut the service just to save a few bucks, while hamstringing the economy of the urban communities along the lines and in Manhattan

It's only a security risk because JSQ is the headquarters of PATH

Def need more pressure on Path regarding service cuts... but I do want to point out that this past Saturday, the Journal Square to 33rd Street was running with 20 minutes headway until around 3:40 am while the Newark to WTC was running with 40 minute headways.... seemed weird to me to have one line running more frequently while the other was a longer wait.

Anyone know why, tried looking it up and got nothing

Someone should archive this just in case they want to claim they never said this

I mean the development boom is literally still here. There is a crap ton of new housing under construction or just a few months away from leasing, and many more other projects in the neighborhoods that are stabilizing the city.

If you are asking why havent we seen more towers under construction at the moment, it might have to do with the interest rates on borrowing money going up/potentially a more planned slow down by the city and developers to not swarm the city with too much construction and new housing as that can kill any positive growth the city has seen over the last few years.

I mean we do need to preserve our city's architectural history as much of those styles arent seeing a revival anytime soon. However, there is a point where these buildings just cannot be saved. I am not for just burning everything to the ground and then building, but when you have the old Essex County Jailhouse just sitting in prime real estate, and being a haven for crime, while also depressing property values and every person that goes in there says no amount of cash can save it, but historical reasons keep it there because some still think they can turn it into a museum... you just gotta be realistic.

There are many buildings being razed that can literally be saved, and those should be... but anything else should be looked at objectively and move from there. Newark has a ton of resources and a wide range of wealthy anchor institutions here that many cities our size dont, and we should use them to help preserve the city's history... but at some point its not doable for some places.

However, the article makes note of an interesting theory that Mayor Baraka is razing the city's history because it represents a time when the city excluded black and brown people from its prosperity. I dont know if its entirely true, because gentrification will just do the same... but it puts a whole new spin on why he has been a very pro-development mayor compared to when he was a councilman. It basically seems to suggest that Newark's current prosperity and redevelopment happened because it was a minority city and not because its trying to shed its minority and poor people. Again, I do not know if I buy it, but if it is true what a weird logical hoop the mayor is jumping through to gentrify the city while claiming we are re-writing the city's history.

Yes, but honestly, I kinda prefer my spelling lmao... I do appreciate the correction, will def make a note of it.

Not to be that guy all the time, but litter and dirty city streets is a major issue in almost every major US city. You can google litter and enter any major city and read article upon article about how dirty said city is. Its just such a big and complex issue. For one, cities are usually super dense which usually means more trash and more trash usually means more of it will overflow causing the issue. Another reason is that cities in the US usually take out the garbage in big plastic bags and leave it on the sidewalk on trash day which allows the homeless and animals to pick at it. Another reason is that US cities have been conditioned to not spend money on major infrastructure projects that would seriously tackle the issue. For example, in Europe, cities have long gone for placing trash underground where it would be collected at a later date. That costs a shit ton of cash to retrofit cities with that, but lead to healthier environments.... in the US, since the 70s, policy has turned from spending money on internal issues to basically leaving cities to fend for themselves which pushed cities to rely on major credit bureau to help them invest in major projects (this is why a city's Moody score is so important as they literally dictate which cities are worthy of investment and which ones are not [basically, if a city uses less of its budget on social services like police, fire department, sanitation, and can balance the budget they are investment worthy]), and that has forced cities to ignore major social issues.

Also, there issue of cycles... if you grew up in a city with trash issues you are more likely to contribute and unfortunately Newark, like many of its siblings, are all suffer from that cycle.

Yup in fact, for cities in the top 100 biggest cities the ranking is: 1) NYC; 2) JC; and like 5 or 6) is Newark.

If you include cities of over 100k Paterson moves into second place. Our state's cities are cities and its crazy that people say they aren't just because they aren't the core of the region (even if the official name of the NY metro area is the NY-Newark-JC metro region meaning if you live in those three you don't live in the burbs and in fact are living in the city)... but oh well, guess you can only claim to be an urban resident if you live in one of the 5 boroughs (even though Staten Island is just northern Bergen County if they happened to be on an island)

if there is no last train and a complete stop of service, its 24 hours, even with changes in service. The A train stops being express after 11pm, does that mean its not late night because there was a change in the service.

This... its awesome having a suto-subway line that runs 24/7 from Newark to NYC, but they need to offer better service after hours. All the neighborhoods on the line are building up extremely fast and the PATH still wants to act like people are only using it for rush hour when it has become much more of a subway line... but oh well, at least they are adding longer trains and expanding the platforms

JC literally only trails NYC and San Francisco in terms of density per square mile. Its just weir to hear people say JC isnt crowded.

Yeah, I do think the biggest downside to JC is that is way to overly reliant on NYC and Newark for arts/concerts/cultural activities... but hey, at least those places are super close by which means you dont have to shut yourself off from being able to enjoy those things.