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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jeg8syi wrote

hell, I was on the 73 bus back to Newark this morning and the amount of construction along that line is crazy. East Orange is going through a boom right now, and so is Newark. Essex County is single handedly doing its best to absorb much of the housing demand that NY is not willing to build.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jckb3g8 wrote

I would say it stacks up extremely well..but the prices gave it the edge. You could get a beef miso ramen with two eggs, corn, crabs, spicy, and like an appetizer for like 24 bucks (including a drink).

It was a super popular place with students, locals, and hell even people who had a layover would stop by on occasions.

They also did pretty good sushi as well.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jcc471y wrote

They are just opening up the station to the local community. Mainly because of the studios opening up across the street so they need a way to shuttle actors and office workers there.. but the economic opportunity for the area is huge seeing as it basically opens up another area of newark to more investment.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jc96bx0 wrote

Oh definitely, but I do find it funny that those same people that petitioned the Feds to change the borders of a community are the same ones upset when a random street they are too afraid to step foot on gets its named changed even if the old functional name is still the primary name of the street

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jc8fq13 wrote

Great, but lets not act like this isn't just to shuttle NY actors to and from the Lionsgate studio. It will do wonders for the neighborhood and revitalize a part of Newark that needs it, but this was probably part of the deal to get the studio into town... now let's get the path extended so we can get some 24 hr access to NY for that neighborhood

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jc7yctu wrote

Reply to comment by vocabularylessons in Sister-city scam by noodle_spam

Its not unheard of... The Russian Federation has many state's in it that function independently of the federal government in Moscow such as: the Jewish Autonomous Oblast that is completely autonomous of Russia but exists inside of it; the 22 ethnic minority republics that have their own constitutions, languages, and legislature (but are represented in foreign affairs by Russia); and four okrugs-they basically they exist within Russia but are basically self governing and have the right to leave Russia if they wanted (now would Russia allow it who knows). Plus, PR is basically an independent state within the borders of the US. Thus, its not unheard of to have independent states within a larger governmental body, especially in federations.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jaeeuz6 wrote

Reply to comment by Nwk_NJ in Shaq II is ICONIQ 777 by felsonj

Its frustrating. Anyone who knows my posts knows I have always proposed wholistic approaches to development but because I defend 2.5K rent in one of the best connected apartment buildings in the country (while pointing out that the rent is very much a steal for the area) I am now a defender of luxury developers and for pushing out the poor. Atleast when I debated the libertarians, they had a solid foundation for their criticisms against me. We wanted the same things, just had differing views on how to get there.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jaeeev6 wrote

Reply to comment by sutisuc in Shaq II is ICONIQ 777 by felsonj

The ultimate booster... dude, I have come down on the city for its shit in the past and I am very much aware that the city lacks certain things that I would love it to have. I am just pointing out that in order for the city to attract the things you love about Philly it needs people with higher incomes to move in and not to just be a city exclusively for the poor... but that somehow makes me delusional.

I also love the fact that you keep pointing to Newark's four superfund sites and claiming to want environmental justice for its residents, but then dont point out that Philadelphia County (basically the city of Philly) has 44 in its borders (which makes it the second most polluted county in the Country)... but somehow, your okay with that because the rent of a studio apartment is slightly less than 2K. Have you stopped to think if the average resident of Philadelphian can actually afford those "affordable" rents. Seems to me that the economy of the city and what passes as higher incomes/higher rents is actually lower since the population of the region cant support higher rents.

The fact of the matter is Philly only looks affordable to people in this region because the average rent in the NY area is about 3K, while the average rent of Philly is 1,901. Just because the numbers look lower to us does not mean it is actually lower for the people living in that area. Philadelphia has a poverty rate of 22.3% which means many of those "affordable" units are in fact not affordable for them.

The definition of affordability is not the same across regions because the market in each region is different. What's affordable for someone in NJ would be considered out of range for someone in Alabama or Mississippi.

If you are going to claim that you care about Newark's lack of affordable housing and its environmental issues, atleast also pretend to care about it in Philly. Because what is happening in Newark is not exclusive to here. Developers all over are buying up properties and making the new housing more expensive than the current economy of those cities can actually support without outside residents moving in. Philly is going through the same housing unaffordability as Newark, but somehow because of Newark's 4 superfund sites its a bad look yet not in Philly with 40 more (many of which are literally steps away from Center City and a few in predominately black North Philly).

Love you calling me delusional because I have a differing opinion about Newark's nightlife and access to mass transit and walkability. Nightlife is up for debate, as I would put up the Ironbound's options up against most cities, but access to mass transit and walkability when Newark's population density is higher than Philly's and much more concentrated because of the smaller city limits... come on

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jae6a3k wrote

Reply to comment by sutisuc in Shaq II is ICONIQ 777 by felsonj

Ah yes, because Newark's wealthier residents are just all white people. A good chunk of the people moving into the city's downtown core tend to be people of color and many Newark residents with college degrees. There is a difference between gentrifying a city and redeveloping a city.

I also want to point out that you literally tacking on the Ironbound's pollution to undermine what that neighborhood offers. Like there are many who prefer the walkability, access to a major train station, jobs, etc that the Ironbound offers compares to much of the "nicer" neighborhoods of Philly.

But Im already losing enough of my time on this pointless argument. You dont like it here and thats fine, but just dont hide your dislike for the city behind some "concern" for its residents.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jae4but wrote

Reply to comment by sutisuc in Shaq II is ICONIQ 777 by felsonj

Who said anything about displacing or pricing out residents. Last time I checked, the development downtown has yet to make a difference in the parts of the city still struggling with disinvestment and poverty. Plus, literally no one lived downtown so no one is getting displaced.

You can point to the Ironbound, but that neighborhood has some of the highest home ownership in the city with many of the landlords being mom and pop and still living in the homes they rent out. Plus, the residents there have the most economic opportunity compared to the rest of the city and many of them have been able to withstand many waves of young professionals moving in for a few decades now.

I do think Newark is a better place to live than Philly. I literally chose to move back to Newark after a stint in NY and I could of easily left for Philly. The city has better access to a more dynamic economy, more entertainment options within and just outside its borders, etc.

You are the one who is disguising your dislike for this city as genuine concern for it. Anytime anyone comes out with something positive about Newark, you just seem to be ready to come out and talk crap about it. If that is your genuine opinion of the city, im not hear to change it... but its disingenuous to come here complain about how the city offers nothing for anyone, but when the city tries to, you go around saying "but the poor people" without ever providing actual input into how to make the city better.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jae25it wrote

Reply to comment by sutisuc in Shaq II is ICONIQ 777 by felsonj

Yet, you want to complain about the city accepting new development and trying to attract young professionals. The only way the city will get those amenities is if the city gets new residents. We used to have those amenities here, but white flight happened and much of that closed down because of it... but somehow that doesnt factor into your analysis.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jae1usr wrote

Reply to comment by sutisuc in Shaq II is ICONIQ 777 by felsonj

Again, that also has to deal with the fact that the economy in the philly area is not as competitive as NJ/NY. People in Newark have to compete with a shit ton of new residents coming from the burbs, NY, all over the country, foreigners both lower income and higher income because people want easy access to the jobs in the New York Market. Philly doesnt offer those same options.

The fact of the matter is, Newark's poorer residents and the housing prices in that sector of the market, is higher compared to those in the philly area because the working poor means something a bit different here compared to there. Plus, Newark was never going to stay this island of poverty for long after the suburbs stopped pushing for development. NYC cannot build the housing necessary to accommodate the people looking to move into the area, nor can JC and Hoboken. At some point the banks and developers and newer residents were going to make their way over here and the city was going to accept new development because it cannot support those who live here without new infusion of cash.

This shit isnt black and white, and Newark has alot more safe guards in place to help stem displacement compared to places like Harrison, JC, and Hoboken because we have learned from their mistakes.

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Aggravating_Rise_179 t1_jae0umg wrote

Reply to comment by sutisuc in Shaq II is ICONIQ 777 by felsonj

Yes, cause the South Ward (the area of the city with the most poverty) and the West Ward (the part of the city that is furthest away from all the mass transit) are just also going to ride the wave of redevelopment. There is a very good chance the North, Central, and East Wards are the areas of the city that only get redeveloped and the rest stays affordable just because of their lack of transit options.

Also, what are we considering nicer areas. Philly is just a larger Newark. Philly, outside of center city, is not what I would call teaming with amazing neighborhoods. I love the city because it is still very gritty, but its very much a rough town and is much rougher than Newark these days.

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