I mean tbf, I didn’t even mention open backs. From what i’ve listened to, I much prefer kilobuck iems to kilobuck open backs.

And I mean if you are buying speakers, no matter the price, to get the most out of them (excluding amp,source, etc since that’s case by case) you need to have a corrected room( which costs money) with good speaker placement

I guess your open back argument is somewhat valid, though unlike speakers and room correction, people talking doesn’t change the to ear FR of open backs.

Also I did say “some people”. You assumed I was talking about everyone. I’m not.

Some people need 1000 bucks just to treat their room so they’re thousand dollar speakers won’t sound like crap.

Chipotle uses Klipsh Heresys, but I can assure you the audio in there isn’t good.

Also, speakers aren’t inherently better. Prefrence exists.

Their rationale sucks. It’s not very accurate

if you already have them, and they worked, i’d go for them again.

If you want a cheaper option that is similar, the new moondrop nekocake is a $40 tws with a similar fit. It would just come with a lot more compromises than that of the airpod pros.

The target they have is pretty much harman

i sold my tygrs because of it. Though it did awaken my love of iems, so i can’t be mad.

a(ss)mazing

actually huge

I use my 2.5mm way more than my 3.5mm at this point.

Campfire is literally the definition of a one hit wonder.

Again, the complete opposite for me. I’ve had 3 2.5 cables that have never bent. Almost every 3.5mm cable i have has done so.

The funny thing is that 3.5 bends way more than 2.5 in my expirianceo

I don't think that studio monitors are the speakers being referred to

based

I dragged my friend to Audio46, who also mainly uses mdr7506, plopped the Sundara's I was trying on his head, and his reaction was "they sound like headphones". The same headphones that sounded so amazing and immersive to me didn't even make him flinch.

My point is that a headphone that universally "wows" doesn't exist. And unless you know what to listen for, diminishing returns start way cheaper than you may think. I guess maybe blasting him with soundstage with a k612 and then putting on Yosi Horikawa might work, but I don't think it would change his worldview. Especially if he prefers a more intimate sound (like me).

That’s a fine option too

by having a twitter account

Iems or headphones? I love headphone Harman, but hate the upper mids emphasis on the iem Harman.

No diffrence of sound can bring anything out of the “subjective” category. Enjoyment doesn’t have any objectivity.

The calculator doesn’t lie.

That came out 2 years before the zero

the wa’ners are crazy. It’s hard to find a more natural sounding iem, even at much higher prices imo

I was going to mention those, but they go over 20

Already happened with quarks dsp, tangzu wa'ner, and the hbb qkz