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Current_Side_4024 t1_jef86l4 wrote

The God gamble. When you think about it we’re kinda going thru the same thing God goes through in the Old Testament. He regrets his creation, regrets creating man bc they bring shame upon Him. Then Jesus comes along and God finds a way to love His creation again. God makes a sacrifice and His relationship with his kids is good again. We need that Jesus figure, that sacrifice. What does man have to sacrifice for us to stop fearing/hating/regretting AI? Probably our pride

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Current_Side_4024 t1_j4fuza4 wrote

The natural human brain is an evolutionary product, it’s not designed to experience that much beauty. We want life to be beautiful, evolution only wants it to be adequate. That’s why we want transhumanism—to enhance the beauty of life that we already experience. Because nature doesn’t give us enough

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Current_Side_4024 OP t1_j2l3d2o wrote

Well I’m happy for you. I did therapy for years and I did experience that chest pain ease from it but fundamentally I was unchanged. And it cost a tonne of money which makes me question how ethical the practice really is. I would rather the world stop reinforcing our existing habits and instead accelerate our reliance on tech which has proven to be far more capable than human hands and human minds manually doing stuff. By going back to therapy I feel like I would be validating the world as it is which is not what I want to do. We could automate so many jobs tomorrow if we had the will to. And we could invent brain editing tech too if we really wanted to. Too many people finding satisfaction in the way things are is why we can’t have the wonders of tomorrow today

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Current_Side_4024 OP t1_j2kyybq wrote

Yea what we have now isn’t that great. If we work extremely hard we might manage to mostly overcome the problem, but most people understandably just aren’t capable of making that huge of a long-term determined effort to change their own self.

That’s why I want tech to do the job and do it for real. It’s frustrating knowing my problem is a few inches above my eyes and yet it rules over my life so much. I wanna dig it out and throw it in the trash

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Current_Side_4024 t1_j29osu7 wrote

Yea but there’s plenty of people whose minds are kind of ruined by traumatic events and/or unrealistic expectations and that prevents them from reaching the healthy mind frame very often or for very long. We need to develop tech that can fix those broken brains and prime them for that healthy mindset at least. The psychological drug medications we’ve developed aim to do that but don’t really succeed bc they’re too primitive and don’t act on the brain in a precise way

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Current_Side_4024 t1_j297osu wrote

I think we should use technology to put us into this “ideal” state of mind round the clock. Not a life of senseless pleasure, but a life of strong character and sociability with each other. The ideal human character that has self-esteem but is also humble. A humble happiness, and we could spend our time doing tasks that reinforce this character. I could try to explain it more but I’ll leave it at that

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Current_Side_4024 t1_j1zyhvr wrote

Why we gotta wait until 2024 to start clinical trials? There’s lots of ppl dying right now who would probably like to be experimented on like this today. What have they got to lose? We are so cautious with trials bc we don’t want to do harm but dgaf about harm being done by our lack of cures

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Current_Side_4024 t1_j055vwv wrote

The main reason why mentally ill people can’t ever improve is because the world still insists on seeing them as someone who should be working first and foremost. All the psychological issues get ignored bc society normally doesn’t give a rats ass about psychological issues. You have to do your job, and if it’s a low-level job, you have to feel bad about not being able to do more ‘important’ shit. And if you’re too mentally ill to work at all, then you have to spend all your time feeling bad about how useless and pathetic you are. The economy makes it impossible for the human psyche to ever recover once it’s damaged, and it also does damage the psyche all on its own even if the person has had a blessed life otherwise.

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Current_Side_4024 t1_izy7mne wrote

What’s the alternative? Insist that we don’t use AI, and that humans keep doing a much shittier version of what AI could do for us? That sounds much worse to me. Insisting on a primitive lifestyle is downright evil in my view. I understand your concerns bc I shared them for years but in recent years I’ve gotten over it, bc it’s inevitable AND there’s a lot of good things about it

If you just sit around doing nothing with your life, then yes you’ll feel very depressed. That’s why we will develop lots of awesome video games and other hobbies that will enable us to feel like we’re productive while having a lot of fun which is generally not the case in traditional jobs. Our lifestyle will be organized so that the “work” aspect of our psychology gets expressed very well and efficiently, making us feel like a million bucks, but it’ll all be an illusion, but we won’t care bc it’ll feel real. Meanwhile AI will handle the important stuff. It’s hard to wrap your head around if you haven’t thought about it for a long time. I was once like you, but now I’m totally past that and I can’t wait for AI to take over. Remember, most jobs today are shitty, boring, pointless and stressful. It’s not good. And in human history most jobs were wretched. We’re moving into a better future and you’d be a fool to be depressed about that! Not to mention, it’s inevitable, and resisting the inevitable is the definition of insanity!

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Current_Side_4024 t1_izxd5vx wrote

It’s not hard to fake anymore, have you looked up the chat bots recently? They’re damn near human like. A few more updates and you won’t know the difference. A few minutes of talking to them and you’ll be pouring out your soul and crying about your daddy, more so than you would with a real therapist

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Current_Side_4024 t1_izmnari wrote

What saved me was realizing that if AI does take away peoples’ sense of purpose and makes us feel useless and shitty, then we’ll invent a way to simulate purpose. Even if it means working a “job” in a VR program that doesn’t actually serve any purpose except our own mental health. So we won’t actually lose anything bc anything we lose we can get back through simulation which we can design to be more fun than it ever was in ‘reality’

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