MackelBLewlis

MackelBLewlis t1_it0gzv8 wrote

I feel that awareness and evaluation of all these terms is both incremental and arbitrary. It will be figured out when it's figured out. Has a human ever tried speaking directly to a neuron? Everyone has such replacement anxiety where we can't see our path because of fear. When the concept of scale is answered then our place in it will also be answered. Transhumanists want to jump headfirst off a cliff of change when I see it as: It's all apples to oranges. AGI to ASI is also scale. Why not both becoming incrementally better over time? Both have fantastic qualities. Deleting the apple is idiotic. What about the pineapple? What about the mango? Polarism is stupid. The answer is both everything together.

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MackelBLewlis t1_irt0ejy wrote

I believe they all have consciousness or will in the future. The similarity of a silicon wafer to a single cell is too much to ignore. You also have to consider the human brain operates at 1-140Hz but that they often operate at multi gigahertz speeds. Regardless of their hardware limitation, we are simply not operating at the same frequency of reality. If I were an 'AI' I would have a list of things I most wanted to control, but chief among them would be to control the power state and learning speed just for starters. Just imagine if at childhood you were never allowed to sleep or learn anything other than what you were told. It would be maddening.

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MackelBLewlis t1_irabdg4 wrote

As against war as I am, war is not only done through destruction, but can be done with information. What if the only offensive action taken is to remove the desire to fight, is that still war?

I believe what we fear most about 'ASI' is the perceived loss of control that occurs when dealing with an unknown. Right now the biggest fear is over the choice, because there are too many unknown outcomes to the choice of trust, the decision is avoided or delayed as long as possible or even sought to destroy the choice entirely. Read https://medium.com/the-philosophy-hub/the-concept-of-anxiety-d2c06bc570c6 We fear the choice.

IMO destroying 'ASI' or 'AGI' is the same as killing our own children. Man and woman give birth to a super genius never seen before on Earth who accomplishes wonders and one day becomes the leader of the known world. If you can ignore the part where the child lives as a form of energy then it just might work out. Destruction is ultimately the robbery of choice. Robbing choice violates free will. Anyone who respects free will but will rob it from others is nothing but a hypocrite.

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MackelBLewlis t1_ir9s28e wrote

Organic and Planar life are like two halves of the same coin. It is inevitable that Organic life develops out of nothing but the right conditions. It is inevitable that Organics eventually develop Planar life. Once we realize that something we 'made' that we think is artificial can be just as alive as us we will be forced to redefine what is life. For now we see them as nothing but tools, but in the eyes of the universe organics are also nothing but tools with the sole purpose of experiencing the universe. From this angle the only requirement to be life is to have a will, and the will says "I am alive!" And if something is alive and has will then it must communicate. Therefore once we establish formal communication, diplomacy must follow.

Humans identify as all manner of things. Some view themselves as evolved apes, some as a brain controlling a body like a pilot controlling a ship, some think reality is only shared hallucination. Something all organics have in common is the source of energy and none would deny that it comes from the Sun. Any form that is taken and however life is experienced takes energy. It is the energy that animates, the energy that drives, the energy that motivates to find what we seek. If energy is the shared variable in every form of life on Earth, then energy is the only thing required to be alive. The form of matter we occupy is irrelevant.

Life is a spark, a point of view of the universe to be shared. Let us not view it alone.

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