Majestic_Pitch_1803
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd9lw4n wrote
Reply to comment by Postnificent in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Protection from space debris, mining as a key point but not the whole point.
Sitting inside the asteroid would surely provide protection from radiation.
Ability to have multiple smaller payloads more easily (due to less weight) meet this required speed to board the asteroid and coalesce to form a much more complex operation once on the asteroid. Meaning even achieving that speed at all is made far easier.
Manufacturing propellant for the departure from the asteroid at the end of the mission.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd8t3ku wrote
Reply to comment by b_a_t_m_4_n in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
For sure we are a ways off but perhaps you send smaller rovers that manufacturer these instruments once on board the asteroid, perhaps just deploying enough raw materials to give them a start.
Voyager for example just ran out of gas. As is expected. This is an issue you’d need to solve in such types of travel. Asteroids seem like a possible solution
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd8k6n4 wrote
Reply to comment by Postnificent in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
No, I’m not suggesting you need to keep accelerating. The speed aspect is only one reason you might want to save on the fuel you take, how do you plan on slowing down? If you could somehow mine the asteroid for fuel, this may be a possible solution.
You could also send smaller payloads that all reach the ship more easily and coalesce to fully establish sensory instruments and research stations. Rather than trying to get one heavy ship to a high speed and then somehow slowing it down.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd63c8x wrote
Reply to comment by Diesalotwpg in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I mean there could be more, just invisible. Could use gravity assists to reach further ones.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd62vkq wrote
Reply to comment by OnlyAstronomyFans in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
A quick answer would be protection from space debris. More land with which to make the space craft more reinforced and with which to potentially build further technological instruments, or even live on if that was a possibility.
Even so. It could provide avenues for slowing down the payload once reaching the destination. If you could mine for fuel, that’s a win.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd62qcb wrote
Reply to comment by pmMeAllofIt in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Not oumuamua specifically, just an omuamua like object. As an example that such a thing does exist.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5s18p wrote
Reply to comment by blisteringmeat in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Aka space and access to materials that could allow for farming
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5r9xl wrote
Reply to comment by scorpyo72 in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Bennu was going 67,000km/h
Oum is something like 20,000km/h faster.
We can’t do it yet.
Yet.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5qlf4 wrote
Reply to comment by Insteadly in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Indeed so it’s not like stars can get closer or further away from our sun very easily or quickly, from our perspective anyway.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5qilh wrote
Reply to comment by Beaver_Sauce in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I cba reiterating but I think there are many more benefits. Look at my responses to the top comments
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5qf12 wrote
Reply to comment by MaekusMikolous in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I explained it in other comments and I cba reiterating but I think there are more benefits than just matching it’s speed with a single craft
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5q143 wrote
Reply to comment by KilgoreTroutPfc in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I wouldn’t worry so much about turning the asteroid so much as I would be worried about getting off when i’m where I want to be. But at least in my scenario you could get off how you got on and you don’t need to take enough fuel with you to get off, you get it when you’re on the asteroid
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5ps3x wrote
Reply to comment by PigSlam in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I mean I wouldn’t worry about steering it.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5ou5b wrote
Reply to comment by FallenShadeslayer in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Wait, are you talking to me through your handheld computer? Please, the science fiction.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5osmc wrote
Reply to comment by FallenShadeslayer in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Lmao, haven’t we landed a probe on an asteroid before?
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5nutv wrote
Reply to comment by hdufort in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Indeed, though this would be easier since you could send multiple smaller payloads that coalesce on the object. Not only this, if you somehow managed to mine and create small scale industrial works, you could maybe even make the fuel to bloody get off asteroid.
If you decided to send humans they could live inside the asteroid as a fortress from the elements, as a place from which to further develop the asteroid as a spacecraft itself. Creating many of the sensory instruments and propulsion technology or fuel, spaces for living aka creating agriculture and processing essential gasses.
If you ask why would you send humans on such a journey? Why would you send them on a voyager 1 like journey? You wouldn’t, you’d send them to a desired location, like near a habitable planet. Only it seems easier to me to do it this way than to try and send a single manned ship.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5ng8u wrote
Reply to comment by kennedy311 in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Indeed I like that the idea is challenged, but also the people answering must know that someone could revise my plan and make it better very easily.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5n0gv wrote
Reply to comment by Diesalotwpg in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I mean we had Oumuamua it feels like yesterday. And I know it isn’t the only one of it’s kind.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5mu7u wrote
Reply to comment by DrSartorius in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I mean we landed on Bennu.
Just saying, not me personally- just to clarify.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5maih wrote
Reply to comment by MaekusMikolous in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Making the initial payload lighter so that you would be able to send a number of rovers to develop a more sophisticated operation, once actually on the object, rather than trying to land the entire operation there, all in one go. Which would require heavier payloads with = harder to get to such speeds.
Getting off the asteroid is just as much an issue as slowing down an independent spacecraft that has reached similar speeds and makes an interstellar journey. How do we slow down? Wouldn’t we need fuel and propulsion just as we got up to the same speed so to board the asteroid initially, or to slow down an independent spacecraft.
At least on an asteroid you can mine for the fuel and create a rocket.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5lvrb wrote
Reply to comment by Insteadly in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Everything else is also moving though, some coming towards us, some moving away.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5lln1 wrote
Reply to comment by gadget850 in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Depends on where you want to go, like choosing which bus.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5lch7 wrote
Reply to comment by Due-Studio-65 in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
You would likely need to send multiple spacecraft at the same time to the object. Couldn’t nuclear energy get us a long way once we’re actually on the object? This would be a notch in favour of making a colony that could become self sustaining if properly prepared
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd5kzb4 wrote
Reply to comment by ImhereforyourDD in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
I mean it could allow you to send multiple smaller payloads to the asteroid and allow it to act as a central ship. You can carry a smaller payload either way if you could figure out how to mine and manufacture on such a body. You wouldn’t need the object to be as heavy with shielding materials etc. If the project was sophisticated to carry humans you could develop essentially a colony and sensory instruments once actually on the asteroid. You could mine for elements and there are many.
Majestic_Pitch_1803 t1_jd9opzh wrote
Reply to comment by Postnificent in Couldn’t we land on an asteroid that is passing through our solar system and use that as a vessel for interstellar travel? by [deleted]
Heavier to launch all that stuff and have it accelerate to such speeds
You have to get rid of radioactive waste sure. But surely that rock is no more radioactive that most other rock