NWO_Eliminator

NWO_Eliminator t1_iwd003w wrote

TC5 is the design that has been around for decades and is about the only model that still uses a physical transmission, with metal gears to boot. It's for heavily soiled laundry. The TR series is fairly new and used for office dust and minor soiled laundry.

2

NWO_Eliminator t1_itys7i6 wrote

You can't see the differences between the old and new designs and transmissions?!?

Read through this thread to see what actual appliance repairmen that have 50+ years of experience have to say about the new design. Go to Reply #33 and sift through 10 pictures of all of the tiny cheap plastic gearing inside. Look at the rusted agitator shafts that are destroyed in 3 years or less due to their shitty tub seals.

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREADM.cgi?78846

Here's the inside of the transmission of the older style that has zero history of tub seal issues.

https://youtu.be/cUOH67WisHU?t=246

It's possible they went down in quality, I suppose, but why now? They've owned this market segment for over a century and are privately owned. There isn't an incentive for them to suddenly change gears.

Profit. Make it cheaper and sell for the same price. If everyone else is cheapening their design to maximize profit, follow the trend to survive. I also think they're coming out with new designs and not spending enough time with research and development.

This has been a major issue in the automotive world the last 10-15 years. They come out with a new engine/transmission design and by the time they fix all of the problems, they crank out another design and the process repeats itself. Engines went to low tension piston rings in the mid to late 2000's and they had a ton of oil burning issues. Actually, a lot of new vehicles still have oil burning issues due to this shitty design to increase MPG's a measly 1-2 points. Now the new trend is putting small engines in everything, including trucks, and throwing a turbo on it. It's greatly reducing the lifespan of engines and turbo are dying early deaths.

Just look at automatic transmissions in the last 15-20 years. In the early 2000's we still had 4 speed automatic transmissions with designs that went back to the late 70's/early 80's. Then it went to 5 and 6 speeds to 8-10 speeds in as little as 5 years. There were a lot of major changes in a short period of time with automatic and CVT transmissions and they were dying premature deaths due to the lack of R&D. A Toyota Camry was still using the same 4 speed automatic transmission in 2001 as they did in 1983. Some Toyota products went from 4 speed transmissions to 8 speed with several different design changes in between in just 6 years.

1

NWO_Eliminator t1_ito252h wrote

Reply to comment by Mhdnhp in 1956 Frigidaire Range by dezualy

Frigidaire was originally owned by General Motors until they sold their appliance division in 1979. It's nothing but a name for over 40 years that has been bought and traded a few times.

0

NWO_Eliminator t1_itjsa0b wrote

Reply to comment by inspire-change in 1956 Frigidaire Range by dezualy

Had a new GE range fail within seconds of the first use. It beeped a code persistently and I had to turn the breaker off after using it. Replaced it with a high end induction range. The display wen goofy a couple of months later, and it was replaced. That display went crazy 7 months later and the entire range was replaced. This new one works a bit better but occasionally acts up like the previous one. Meanwhile, at the previous house, the original 1970 Whirlpool stove top worked flawlessly for the 35 years it was used. The 1970 oven worked flawlessly short of an element replacement. Gotta love progress.

1

NWO_Eliminator t1_itjrdpv wrote

Reply to comment by Faptasmic in 1956 Frigidaire Range by dezualy

GE had that option (Sensi-Temp) back in the late 50's. They discontinued it around the 70's or 80's and recently brought it back. Frigidaire had the same option, they called it "Heat Minder" which this particular range does not have, but it was available on the higher end units. https://www.reddit.com/r/Mid_Century/comments/l5lf6i/own_a_vintage_frigidaire_stove_has_a_heat_minder/

3