Usually I'd blow it off, but honestly that rhetoric is dangerous if it becomes a common consensus. Please stop spreading unsourced misinformation, especially when you know the actual and correctly sourced information and post that also.

> For the kind of fighting that's happening in Ukraine, they're mostly death traps.

So this is untrue, yes?

The "correct" reason is in fact:

>Western tanks are of absolutely no use to them for countless logistical reasons

Do you want to edit your original post to clarify or...?

> They don't really need or want tanks, though. For the kind of fighting that's happening in Ukraine, they're mostly death traps.

This is honestly a bunch of crap. I'd be interested to know what has made you formulate this idea.

The way Russia used tanks for the first 3 months - YOLOing down highways with no intel or infantry - is obviously massively wasteful and not what Ukraine should be doing. Using tanks the way Russia is now, by hardening or attacking trench formations, is very useful.

Ukraine want tanks, and having tanks would reduce casualties. You're right it's not top of the list, or even second or third (artillery is top of the list, missiles are second, AA is third) but it is certainly on the list.