Got it on my list to watch, any good?

And probably is why the Buddha said life is suffering. Until there's a perfect system designed by a near flawless being, I guess we're all just at the mercy of life.

Well at any rate, I don't think I'll be letting therapy and medicine attempt to fix this problem anymore, except where applicable/appropriate. It's just head games on top of more head games, what a trip

This is great and all but it just furthers my point, there's no real help readily available and accessible for people who the system that fails them.

Wow. Ive absolutely experienced therapy wherein it places the problem within me. Like I've been doing something wrong, or the reverse I haven't been doing enough of something or the right way. The fault always seems to be placed on me.

The problem is, even if you could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the socio-economic factors were an underlying cause of certain mental illness, there's no help for that. And trying to tackle capitalism in any form just isn't going to happen anytime soon.

I've never heard of corporate interest in mental health, but it wouldn't surprise me. I'm not really sold on this yet. But like I said, if the problem is societal then wth are we supposed to do? Medicine doesn't always work either

I mean, CBT wasn't developed as a quick fix solution though right? Could you elaborate more on that, with state and insurance?

Why is this being downvoted to hell? Are people downvoting because there's something wrong with your "evidence" or do they just not agree that it treats symptoms not causes.

Hey I'm happy any time something works for someone. CBT was really useful to me too but it couldn't make a dent in my depression so. I've come to realize this isn't a psychological issue at all it's chemical/biological.

I think I was someone who never really spiraled from mental illness and was naturally good at not making it worse. I guess that has always been a blessing. But it doesn't mean the curse has gone away

That's right. Something shifts inside once we have to endure or experience those types of realities. The shifts will be different for everyone, how we respond will be different.

Yes, accepting certain realities is not easy. Why should we have to accept realities that are wrong or evil in this world. Those realities simply carry more weight for some than others, whether they accept them or not

Is depression just not one of your areas of focus?

Yes but put in the work to stop the increased mental illness and you're still left with it. This was VERY depressing as someone who set out to fix themselves with CBT and has depression. If I wanted to "manage" depression I'd have walked off a cliff already. I want that shit gone

I think we all would. But some of us can't hide from reality once they see it. Sometimes reality just hits deeper than others I'd say

I think optimism is a consequence of an already healthy, happy life. That's why it may never be proven to cause good health