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Suolucidir t1_jedaiok wrote
Reply to Futurology CMV - We are probably never going to see the changes envisioned by AI enthusiasts. by dja_ra
Think about the practical aspects of AI "taking all jobs", assuming that happens before society is prepared to regulate UBI or other mitigating post-scarcity policies. People will still need to eat, wear clothes, be housed, etc.
People provided those things for themselves before any form of automation, and they can always go back to doing it again.
Unless AI is going to prevent farming the land and refining its resources, society will carry on at least with these fundamental economics.
At minimum, people will work to provide the essentials for people at the price point they can both afford the essentials and afford the time to participate themselves in the production of those essentials.
So don't worry so much about it because it's not going to benefit you in the short term, nor in the long term if your fears turn out to be reality(which I doubt, personally).
Suolucidir t1_jec3awc wrote
I am not sure about AI becoming self aware, but I see a lot of anxiety in the community about billionaires being the only people in control of these models and I want to address that issue a little bit.
The fact is that GPT-4 is amazing and not open source. So it is true that you cannot run it yourself. However, it is not inaccessible and you can use it for free or pay to use it on upgraded hardware with more memory on a pay-as-you-go model - so it is certainly accessible for regular people.
With that said, GPT-4 is not the only game in town. For example, Bloom is an open source alternative that is routinely viewed as comparable to GPT-3.5(and better in some cases, depending on what you are asking for). There are a few other models that get very close to GPT-3 performance that are open source too, like EleutherAI's GPT-NeoX-20B model.
Anyway, Bloom is free to download, use, and even modify for anybody. You might be thinking "Yeah, well how am I supposed to afford to run a model trained on 167 Billion parameters?"
And that is a reasonable thought. The answer is that you probably cannot afford to run it yourself. Here is an example of the hardware you would need to buy: https://shop.lambdalabs.com/deep-learning/servers/blade/customize (At 8x A100 GPUs it's just over $150,000). However, 10 people could go in together with $15000 apiece and then it's cheaper than any new car (and it's likely you would never run into each other, HUGE university departments share this kind of hardware effectively).
Alternatively, this guy did it for $32/hour using Amazon's cloud: https://medium.com/mlearning-ai/bloom-176b-how-to-run-a-real-large-language-model-in-your-own-cloud-e5f6bdfb3bb1
Here is a link to the actual model if anybody wants to really do this: https://huggingface.co/bigscience/bloom
Suolucidir t1_jebuq6g wrote
Reply to comment by Crazy-Mall-5301 in Is it possible that AI is already in control of our society. by Crazy-Mall-5301
Aw yeah, that was me like just a few days ago! It'll happen again, so remember to reflect on what your environment and recent behaviors whenever you start feeling weird, that's what I try to do anyway and it works most of the time.
People say routine daily exercise, even if it's like super brief(<10min jumping jacks or outdoor walking, for example) can help keep us grounded too.
Suolucidir t1_jebrnhn wrote
Have you ever heard the expression "go outside and touch some grass?" (People say it to be offensive sometimes, but I don't mean it that way here.)
Basically, it means that you are living online too much or indoors too much and it is starting to make you feel like your personal experience(which is mostly online/indoors) is more representative of reality than it really is.
Whereas, in actual fact and (perhaps)unbeknownst to you, your personal experience has become VERY divorced from the real/natural/outdoor world(this usually leads to depressive or anxious thoughts about your life as well).
Anyway! That was all context. I just wanted to say: No. It is highly unlikely that AI is controlling society, and a LOT of the fears about it online/in media are preemptive. The issues evoking fear are relevant and really need to be discussed, but the ramifications of these tools are not as pervasive yet as they may seem, given that discussion of them is wildly pervasive already.
I cannot prove what I have said above, because that requires proving the negative - that AI is NOT in control. And that is why you have to personally touch grass to believe me(and feel OK about this stuff too).
Suolucidir t1_jebbj1y wrote
Reply to comment by SomeoneSomewhere1984 in Opinion: AI will only empower the working class in the long term by ImArchBoo
Yeah, the stuff that Boston Dynamics does on their completely transparent, public channels was already pretty crazy years ago. I am sure it's MUCH further along behind the scenes too.
When we're particularly talking about worker replacement, the job market, and class power shifts, the two things that I am not so sure are 100% dialed in are:
- Reliability, and associated risk, of on-the-job android behavior
- Affordability of android hardware
I think these two factors are going to have to be VERY polished for investors and C-suite executives to adopt androids in any meaningful, pervasive way.
I know I would need a LOT of internal testing and risk assessments to be completed before I released just 1 semi(or fully)-autonomous android into my warehouse, among real people and expensive product stock - and that's just 1 android. Doing it in multiple locations or in fleets of 10s or 100s or 1000s would only compound my reluctance.
Suolucidir t1_je9pxzc wrote
Reply to When do you think it will be possible to create a video from a memory with just a helmet over the head? by Possible_Being_3189
I think it's something that could happen right now. Here is a video of a guy turning his memory of a lemon into a generative text output using GPT: https://youtu.be/-HYbFm67Gs8
If he had just trained it to recognize his thoughts of a lemon for thoughts of a lemon, then the text output would have been: "Lemon"
There are already models that convert text to video, so it would just have to hand off to a video generative model to produce a video of a lemon instead.
Suolucidir t1_je89rgq wrote
We're all still fixated on AI, when that ship sailed a year ago or more. There was no turning back when open source models like BERT were widely prevalent. There's certainly no turning back now.
So we should focus on the next target: robotics.
AI will be ubiquitous, but only some people/countries will be able to give it physical robotic bodies to act on its intellect.
That's the next dominoe, and we may yet have runway to get a handle on its implications, if we can just move on regarding AI.
Suolucidir t1_jd3v6c6 wrote
I picture Microsoft and Google like two merchants in a bustling marketplace, both generally minding their own business and selling wares from their booths next door to each other.
Over just the last few years, Microsoft quietly steps closer and closer to Google, slipping behind them while they are distracted by their overwhelming crowd of search customers.
Microsoft looks over Google's shoulder with seething envy while they go about their business being the definitive search leader for decades.
As customers, we can all see it. Microsoft tries hard and grows a bit with Bing, but seems destined to 2nd place forevermore. We can see Microsoft looking defeated day after day, because 2nd place just doesn't meet their personal ambitions.
Then suddenly Microsoft grabs a knife called OpenAI and violently stabs Google in front of everyone. It looks like it could be a fatal blow. Google crawls backward into their stall while everyone turns to Bing for ChatGPT access.
We all figure "Hey, maybe Google will heal up and come back out with a comparable offering soon," but they just cough a little blood(a failed chatbot demo) and it starts looking hopeless for them. We are surprised how fast the tables have turned, but Google will probably be OK given time. Right??
That's when we see Microsoft and they keep advancing right into Google's stall, where they are convalescing. Microsoft, still seething with unquenchable envy, and still weilding the knife(OpenAI), proceeds to stab Google again(Dall-E) in cold blood, right in front of everybody.
Could it be outright murder? It's possible imo. Google better hire a LOT of AI/ML talent fast.
Suolucidir t1_jcz19jr wrote
Reply to 10 months after its launch by SpaceX, a $10,000 satellite made by students with off-the-shelf materials and powered by 48 Energizer AA batteries, is not only working, it's demonstrating a way to reduce space junk by lughnasadh
It is testing the deployable yellow drag net material pictured at the bottom of the device.
Compared with other small objects released during the same mission, this object is set to re-enter Earth's atmosphere about 5x faster(5 years instead of 25 years) due to that lightweight yellow drag material.
It won't remove any other space junk with it, but it is testing the idea that we can use cheap drag net material to more quickly return space junk to earth.
Suolucidir t1_jamhxpq wrote
Reply to comment by PostScarcityHumanity in With The Help Of AI, By When Will There Be Drugs That De-Ages Humans And Keeps Us Forever Young? by AnakinRagnarsson66
I follow you, but think about it this way: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
As I think about how my mind already makes new memories and erases or compresses others, I suspect it already works this way.
Suolucidir t1_jaky7yv wrote
Reply to With The Help Of AI, By When Will There Be Drugs That De-Ages Humans And Keeps Us Forever Young? by AnakinRagnarsson66
I agree with diet and exercise being the current best bet.
With that said, I think a brain-computer interface that allows read/write will come along before we reverse biological aging.
When you can read/write thoughts or memories to a drive, whether in real time or during an induced dreamlike state, I think we'll have to seriously consider whether we want to keep living primarily within our bodies.
Suolucidir t1_j9mp1ds wrote
Reply to comment by loadformorecomments in Amazon closes $3.9 billion deal to acquire One Medical | CNN Business by prehistoric_knight
Yeah, exactly.
It's a fee not included on my explanation of benefits to see a doctor that is in-network, and thus a service provider which I am already paying the insurance payor to see for medical care.
That does not seem legal at all.
Suolucidir t1_j9li4tt wrote
Reply to Amazon closes $3.9 billion deal to acquire One Medical | CNN Business by prehistoric_knight
One Medical will charge you a monthly subscription fee just to make appointments to see their doctors/nurses. Then they will bill your insurance as usual and collect a copay.
What I don't understand is how this business model does not constitute insurance billing fraud?
If they participate on your insurance panel then the fees are supposed to align with the insurance Explanation of Benefits, aren't they?
Suolucidir t1_j8sxl9j wrote
Reply to comment by anti-torque in ChatGPT is a robot con artist, and we’re suckers for trusting it by altmorty
Exactly. This is absolutely the truth of the situation for ChatGPT, which is undoubtedly a lifeless machine that we real humans know for certain is not at all alive nor "thinking" the way we ourselves do.
Using my natural cognitive methods, I am pretty sure it commonly follows next that your statement is also absolutely the truth for real fleshy hoomans who breath colorless atmospheric gas at room temperature like you and me, my fellow meaty hooman friend person.
Do you agree that breathing is so satisfying at the appropriate temperature for respiration, which I prefer to be room temperate or a comfortable ambient temperature, generally taken as about 70°F?
Fahrenheit is named after Richard Francis Fahrenheit, an Italian scientist born in the British Commonwealth in 1686. He was the first person, and I am also a real hooman person, to create a reliable way to consistently tell the temperature.
Suolucidir t1_j6a910z wrote
Reply to Just some brain farts I'd love to discuss. by ihwip
I do not feel threatened by any of this.
It just is not that novel compared to what is already going on.
When internet became a thing, for example, that was a big deal. I am sure the printing press really changed things for humanity too. Antibiotics were game changers too.
At this point, realistic deep fakes have existed for years and there doesn't seem to be any earth changing impact. We might be inclined to think they will fool people into believing conspiracies and other "real fake blending", but a lot of people already believe that bullshit *without* deep fakes at play.
The same thing goes for the advanced NLP stuff like ChatGPT and others. People fear the worst - they think it's going to lead to uncontrollable disinformation online and elsewhere but, even as you read that here, I am sure you are already thinking about the uncontrollable disinformation that is/was already prevalent *without* tools like ChatGPT around.
It's just not that big of a change.
Suolucidir t1_j64ceca wrote
Home Depot has a pretty bigtime corporate loyalty program too - where "pros" can track all of their purchases by job name/number.
I am interested in whether any of this proprietary business information was also handed over to Meta without consent and whether there are going to be any juicy lawsuits between construction firms and Meta/HD over IP exposure, corporate espionage, and data security risk.
Suolucidir t1_iye1rab wrote
Reply to comment by RequiemOfTheSun in What’s gonna happen to the subreddit after the singularity? by Particular_Leader_16
I see what you mean. It's not entirely unrelated - an example of such an object is the theoretical mass at the center of a black hole.
From inside the black hole, it is theorized that everything is substantially 'singular' - as in literally pulled into a singular high-density mass for which the gravitational forces are so great that they even pull in light and generate the event horizon that we perceive from the outside.
The way this relates to a technological singularity is that a sufficiently advanced AGI will theoretically access/interpret/monitor/design? all other technologies, creating a technologically 'singular' entity/ecosystem/whatever we call it at that point.
My comment was just to emphasize that the boundaries of what a 'singularity' is are very fuzzy, so while the sub may eventually agree that AGI exists to fulfill the general definition of a technological singularity, at the same time (i think) we will always be identifying technology not yet joined to that singularity. Eventually, we may even pivot to discussion of an extra-technological singularity as well.
Suolucidir t1_iyducrc wrote
Literal 'singularity' would mean we all merge and become one with the sub, just as we become one with everything else.
But that's not really what most of us mean by 'singularity'(not that I'm the authority on it, or can even succinctly define it myself).
So it's just going to continue on, discussing the various stages of our journey toward literal 'singularity' as we approach but do not not actually arrive at that point - like an asymtote.
Suolucidir t1_iws6aop wrote
Reply to When does an individual's death occur if the biological brain is gradually replaced by synthetic neurons? by NefariousNaz
I don't think they die, even if 100% replaced. However, I do not think they are made immortal either.
Let's not kid ourselves. Any system capable of replacing the human brain will need to be technologically complex. Can you imagine the system maintenance required to keep it working long term?
It's not going to last forever and the resources to keep it "alive" are going to be greater and more difficult to coordinate than those required by much of our existing technologies imo.
Suolucidir t1_iuyvr6h wrote
Reply to BlogNLP: AI Writing Tool by britdev
How is it free? I thought they charged per token...
Suolucidir t1_jeg3nle wrote
Reply to comment by Just__Tyler in Is it possible that AI is already in control of our society. by Crazy-Mall-5301
To me, this means that Wall Street and retirees(including people near retirement) should be more concerned about the implications of AI/ML than Main Street and people who still have many working years left.
Even so, it does not necessarily mean that anything bad is going to happen to Wall Street or retirement portfolios, it just means that persons more reliant on savings/investments(as opposed to active cashflows) should pay attention to the issue for their own interests.
Is that what it means to you too? Or something different/additional?