Toloc42
Toloc42 t1_ivo31j1 wrote
Reply to TIL that the "Lost City of Atlantis" was invented by the philosopher Plato, as a fake enemy for Athens that lost favour of the gods and was sunk in to the sea. by PDRugby
I'm surprised at this comment section.
Usually right wing cultists will go for Lemuria as their chosen esoteric sunk island Utopia. Since they can make up way more random nonsense about it.
The historical truth behind Atlantis doesn't go beyond "natural disasters have destroyed islands"
There is NO evidence of Atlantis being anything but an allegory made by Plato. The references to it being based on ancient writings passed on through the millennia are made by, you may have guessed it, Plato himself.
He made up a debate among four guys, half of them likely entirely fictional, all of them in any case dead for 50 years at that point. He has them discuss how to make up a totally awesome society. One of them he has tell the others about an island empire that the guy read about in writings by another guy, who lived about 120 years before the debate. And who read about these in ancient histories that were thousands of years old when he visited Egypt. There is no evidence of either of those writings actually existing in any shape at any time.
That's about four levels of framing. Kinda like the beginning of Grand Budapest Hotel.
And that just what Atlantis is, it's a framing device to strengthen a point.
There is no evidence going beyond Plato.
The "history of Atlantis" reached Plato the same way from ancient sources as The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were passed to Tolkien through Bilbo and Frodo Baggins.
Toloc42 t1_jbqd028 wrote
Reply to B.C. man says he accidentally unlocked and drove someone else’s Tesla using the app by ChocolateTsar
There is one scenario where I can make this make sense. And that scenario has a lot of guesswork since I don't know the exact start up procedure of a Tesla car.
If the car unlocks and starts as long as the linked phone has connectivity, and stays drivable without further confirmation for a short time window after getting out and back in for convenience, then, if the owner of the other car had just gotten out and was still close enough, this might have been possible.
I do not know if Tesla cars work this way or can be configured to work this way.
Then the guy didn't get in because of an app mix up, but anyone else could've done it too. It's hard to imagine the other driver not noticing it though. Maybe if the second owner stood next to the first car, because they were confused too?
I'd believe a lot about the quality of Tesla cars, they don't have the best rep anymore, but the app actually unlocking a car next to the one it's actually linked to? No. That's beyond any level of incompetence.