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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6ka7h1 wrote

no it doesn't! If you still have demand (which is only growing with people moving here) the rents stay up in the "older units". Your claiming prices trickle down! Again Cali rents aren't going down. Your premise that what will be built under new up zoning beats overall demand, show me that because its bs!

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YIMBYS want it both ways

Free market extremism (build whatever basically)

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and the magic claim it backfills demand, when the market doesn't mind people in the streets or at moms house! It cares about capturing max returns and renting to poor people doesn't pay for buildings!

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6k9cyj wrote

upzoning is a top Dem party priority (easy to research I promise). What do I stand for? Public housing NOW. I stand for real policy's that put roofs over everyones head, I dont want just slogans I want policy's that have public elements that leaves no human behind. Not policy's that mean you must have tech worker pay to live in Maine, a place that was once a broke people area.... Its not Maine governments fault we didn't build a ton of private houses and rentals 20 years ago when nobody could have predicted work from home + covid. Im sick of the lie that we should ding the political class for not knowing 20 years ago Maine would be super popular. I have NOTHING against new Mainers and im not for blocking any new private housing, im against getting rid of local control of zoning and saying have at it real estate! Im sick of all these progressive people thinking blanket upzoning solves anything.

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Upzoning is extremism for Dem party donors , aka real estate.

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6k7zx5 wrote

its rent seeking, you can sit on empty units or airbnb them to keep prices up (they do it, google it). They aren't widgets pig they are homes. You don't care if poor and broke Mainer's suffer.

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You are literally promoting trickle down housing and you cant cite it working in a popular market like California because it doesn't work if a bunch of well off people can move in!

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6k68i6 wrote

LOL the market will self correct. The market tolerates people on the streets! Again your side makes up shit about NIMBY political power. Yes the industry wants to make as much money as it can. Your sides supports catering to tech workers and other well offs.

Whats next more BMWs made in 2023 to lower used car prices?

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6jyl8q wrote

California! Prices are going up... Again stop playing stupid here, you are the one agreeing to these insane premises. How many times do I need to type, Portland put in more units since 2010 and HAS LESS PEOPLE.

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https://truthout.org/articles/yimbys-the-alt-right-darlings-of-the-real-estate-industry/

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6ju1i0 wrote

ive followed the issue for a decade. I don't support no more local democracy for real estate goals. Its so funny if this is such a great idea, its not working anywhere!

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The crisis is about sub 100k people IMO. If you want an $1800 rent and can swing it , your fine. Live in Boston, live in Maine. If you have money America is fine.

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YIMBYism is a fake movement created by Peter Thiel and techies in Cali. Ive watched it spread last decade :)

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If you think its progressive to deregulate housing, you be you.

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6jrjyq wrote

If they want a zoning change over here for a bunch of $1900 rents, I don't give it to them unless say 30 percent are at 80 percent of income somewhere in town from them. Any idea you've given up leveraging them when you upzone everything. Again housing doesn't trickle down and finally I think its fine to say "hey we don't need rentals in an area that can flood soon".

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6jp6qx wrote

We should leverage zoning changes to force non market rate units. Its totally neoliberal BS to say "well let them build anything and hope". Again doesn't mater what style company you have, you sell things to make money. Real estate is gonna build $1900 rents and $500k homes. I for one don't agree to the politics of letting them do it.

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Housing DOESNT trickle down.

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WelcomeToTheBough t1_j6jm4k1 wrote

Nope, you can't cite it in Cali real evidence. How is putting duplex's in low income places helping renters? Cause thats how things went in Cali. All you can cite is real estate BS, if it worked so well it would be in front of us. Portland has built a ton and prices go up! As long as you have great demand, why are they gonna lessen rents? These aren't widgets you are flooding the market with they are rents.... Landlords can fill rentals with tech workers and such.

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