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beachmike t1_is4bq1s wrote
Reply to comment by RavenWolf1 in what jobs will we have post singularity? by theferalturtle
We don't know if conscious experience is beyond the ability of AIs, narrow or general. I have no doubt they will become very good at convincing us they are conscious. We will never really know since consciousness is a 1st person experience.
beachmike t1_is4bc87 wrote
Reply to How would you program Love into AI? by AutoMeta
The experience of love cannot be "programmed," nor can any other emotion or feeling (e.g., the taste of chocolate or the smell of a rose).
As Nobel Laureate Roger Penrose has stated, "consciousness is not a computation." Experiences occur within consciousness.
beachmike t1_irv352n wrote
Nobel laureate Roger Penrose stated, "consciousness is not a computation." I agree with him 100%. A also agree with the father of quantum physics, Max Planck: "I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” I don't assume that our AI creations will be conscious. They'll get extremely good at CONVINCING people they're truly conscious, however. We'll never REALLY know since consciousness is a 1st person experience. There's no known scientific experiment, even in principle, that can falsify or directly detect consciousness in an individual. The only conscious entity that you can be SURE is conscious is yourself.
beachmike t1_irv101p wrote
Reply to comment by CleaverIam in Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
LED lighting
Smartphones
4K TV
Narrow AIs with pattern recognition ability superior to human, e.g., facial recognition
beachmike t1_irv0pvu wrote
Reply to comment by pentin0 in What happens in the first month of AGI/ASI? by kmtrp
You OBVIOUSLY misunderstand the point I'm disputing. MurderByEgoDeath wrote: "Everyone CAN get a PhD from MIT and anything else. We all have that potential ability." Anyone with half a brain knows that is NOT TRUE. We DO NOT all have that potential ability. Not even close. I AM an authority on this subject because I've seen 1st hand people that were simply not smart enough to do well in undergraduate coursework at a top engineering and science university. You made several other incorrect arguments, but I'm not going to waste further time disputing them.
beachmike t1_irr0ks4 wrote
Reply to comment by MurderByEgoDeath in What happens in the first month of AGI/ASI? by kmtrp
You're missing the forest for the trees. Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Someone with a below average IQ CANNOT do well in advanced science and math classes at MIT. It doesn't matter how much they desire to do well, study, or memorize.
beachmike t1_irq1xvp wrote
Reply to Have we reached a technological plateau? by CleaverIam
We are not even close to reaching a tech plateau, and never will unless we somehow destroy ourselves. Tech advancements are often unpredictable and come out of left field, or they are hiding in plain sight until mass adoption makes them hard not to see. Overall, technological advancement is relentless and accelerating. As the sci-fi author William Gibson has stated, "The future is already here, it’s just not evenly distributed."
beachmike t1_irq0g5w wrote
Reply to comment by Freds_Premium in As Ray Kurzweil says Godlikeness is possible post-singularity... by Scarro_Lamann
A wonderful project for a top sci-fi author would be to take "The Last Question" by Isaac Asimov, and turn it into a novel or series of novels.
beachmike t1_irq06qy wrote
Reply to comment by MurderByEgoDeath in What happens in the first month of AGI/ASI? by kmtrp
The naivete is astounding. The detachment from reality is astounding. The reality is that individuals have vastly different levels of ability and intelligence in different fields. You said "We are universal intelligences, and given enough time, anyone can understand anything." ***That's absolute nonsense*** You believe, given enough time, someone with an IQ of 85 (about 1 standard deviation below the mean) can understand Advanced Calculus or Advance Physical Chemistry. That's absurd.
beachmike t1_irnitzb wrote
Reply to comment by Clean_Livlng in As Ray Kurzweil says Godlikeness is possible post-singularity... by Scarro_Lamann
If you could travel back to a previous state of the universe, you would change the state, which is a logical contradiction. Therefore, you cannot travel back to a previous state of the universe. The idea of branching-off into different timelines does not seem to create any paradoxes or logical contradictions, however.
beachmike t1_irni03h wrote
Reply to comment by ThulsaD00me in As Ray Kurzweil says Godlikeness is possible post-singularity... by Scarro_Lamann
Not even close to "Godliness" in the Judeo-Christian way of thinking. Their God is omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, and eternal.
beachmike t1_irnhllp wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in As Ray Kurzweil says Godlikeness is possible post-singularity... by Scarro_Lamann
Living a million years, a million times stronger, and a million times smarter than today's humans is still light years from the Judeo-Christian God concept (omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, and eternal).
beachmike t1_irm3exb wrote
Reply to comment by Mr_Hu-Man in “Extrapolation of this model into the future leads to short AI timelines: ~75% chance of AGI by 2032” by Dr_Singularity
I believe the mythical utopia is forever unobtainable for legacy humans even after the technological singularity, due to our very make-up. However, for those of us who choose to move into the infinite realm beyond human (which the singularity will make possible), all bets are off.
beachmike t1_irl4ggm wrote
Read "The Last Question" by Isaac Asimov.
It's the best science fiction short story ever written.
beachmike t1_irl4dnm wrote
Reply to comment by sumane12 in As Ray Kurzweil says Godlikeness is possible post-singularity... by Scarro_Lamann
See "The Last Question" by Isaac Asimov.
It's the best science fiction short story ever written.
beachmike t1_irehbdg wrote
Reply to comment by NeutrinosFTW in “Extrapolation of this model into the future leads to short AI timelines: ~75% chance of AGI by 2032” by Dr_Singularity
So-called "experts" are often wrong. In fact, there are NO experts on the technological singularity. If we knew what was actually coming, it wouldn't be a singularity event. A singularity, by definition, is unknowable by anything outside of it. However, you miss my point. Every revolution in human affairs brings advantages for humans as well as disadvantages and many new problems. Therefore, the mythical utopia WILL NOT occur. I highly doubt that ONLY one of two extremes will occur as a result of a technological singularity. That's far too simplistic.
beachmike t1_irdntjn wrote
Reply to comment by WashiBurr in “Extrapolation of this model into the future leads to short AI timelines: ~75% chance of AGI by 2032” by Dr_Singularity
I don't think the result will be a binary either/or. The agricultural and industrial revolutions each brought great advantages to humans as well as many new problems. The same will be true for AGI and ASI. I am certain, however, that "utopia" will remain a pipe dream, even after a technological singularity.
beachmike t1_ir9zx1j wrote
Reply to comment by MurderByEgoDeath in What happens in the first month of AGI/ASI? by kmtrp
You don't know what the hell you're talking about. I went to engineering school at University of Michigan. Classes such as advanced calculus and physical chemistry are HARD, and require far more than just the willingness and motivation to learn, or a good memory. The vast majority of people ***DO NOT*** have the intelligence to do well at those classes, and go on to even more difficult graduate school classes at a place like MIT.
beachmike t1_ir9uzlv wrote
Reply to comment by MurderByEgoDeath in What happens in the first month of AGI/ASI? by kmtrp
Actually, no.
The vast majority of people are NOT capable of getting a PhD in the hard sciences, mathematics, or engineering from MIT.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
beachmike t1_is4bznl wrote
Reply to comment by AdorableBackground83 in what jobs will we have post singularity? by theferalturtle
Capitalism should never cease to exist. It's based on the voluntary exchange of goods and services. The only economic system compatible with freedom & liberty is the free enterprise system (capitalism). Socialism is the COERCED exchange of goods and services and redistribution of wealth, controlled by a heavy handed central authority (government).