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bitca57 t1_jefm35g wrote

Eh, the show isn't anything special. Gina Rodriquez deserves better. Jane the Virgin was a once in a lifetime type of show and she deserved everything she got from that. I was hoping for something just as amazing for her for her next series, but instead we got another forgettable network sitcom that plays the same note every single episode. Don't get me wrong, the show isn't the worst thing ever. But it's just so.. meh. I tune out every time I watch and end up looking at my phone.

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bitca57 t1_jefla55 wrote

The revival of Will & Grace. It didn't have anything particularly interesting to say nor did it do anything positive to the main characters. They took away the families that both Will and Grace built in the finale, pretended the finale was a dream, and then further ruined their characters/relationships. Watching Will and Grace be in their 40's and 50's STILL living together not having partners is sad to me.

The revival SHOULD have kept Will and Vince as a couple and Grace and Leo as a couple and went from there. If they wanted to do the whole "it was a dream finale" thing, sure, okay. But at least keep their respected partners still in play. It was just sad watching the revival and realizing these characters still can't have a proper relationship with anyone other than each other.

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bitca57 t1_je1bdj6 wrote

Well of course. It's not like anyone was asking for this. This isn't a huge cult show where people have been endlessly begging for another season for years on end. It's a show that always had a small audience and will remain a show with a small audience. It wasn't popular when it originally aired. So why would it be popular now? It's not a hard concept. Sure, it's hilarious, but it never made sense why they decided to revive this for 6 episodes. Because why? Nobody was asking for it and it's clearly not making them any money, considering nobody is even watching it. Mind boggling to me. But hey, that's a TV network for ya. Doing the complete opposite of what makes sense. Lol

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bitca57 t1_j70kmut wrote

Less seasons is always better, if you ask me. I don't believe any TV series actually benefits from having 10+ seasons. You see shows like Grey's Anatomy that just seem to never end and you question why it's still on the air because the quality of the show has drastically decreased.

I think the actual perfect amount of seasons a show can have is 4 seasons. I think you can tell a complete story that doesn't falter and doesn't get too bloated in a good 4 seasons. Hell, if you want to extend it, I can be okay with maybe 6 seasons. But once a show starts hitting 8+ seasons, I'll most likely check out. By that point, most shows are repeating storylines and aren't doing anything narratively creative or worthwhile, especially if they are network dramas that are hitting 22 episodes a season.

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bitca57 t1_ixl56p8 wrote

That was a wild show, for sure. I will never forget the paper bag episode! And when Christian is marking Kimber with lipstick to show her how she can go from being an 8 to 10 with plastic surgery. Ooo, and The Carver. "Beauty is a curse on the world." God, I forgot all about that show and now all of these are coming back to me. Lol Unfortunately it was typical Ryan Murphy: Started out fantastic and ultimately took a nose dive into complete garbage. But man, when that show was good, it was GOOD.

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bitca57 t1_ivuqh7a wrote

If I'm watching a show for the first time, then I always, always watch it in order from the very first episode. I like to see every episode of a show if I'm going to watch it. Now, if I've already seen the show before and I feel like watching it again, I might skip over a few episodes or even start at a later season depending on how I'm feeling. But for first time viewing, I always start from season 1, episode 1.

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bitca57 t1_iua7ib3 wrote

I actually think we have a good mixture of all of it. Network TV is more episodic and case of the week and streaming is more serialized. On top of that, limited series are huge right now. So while it may be serialized, it’s only for 1 season and has an ending. So you get the best of both worlds with limited series. A one and done season that doesn’t extend any further.

Personally, I’m more on the serialization train. Episodic/procedural series drive me crazy. Just comes down to personal taste, I suppose. But I actually think there is a good mixture for everyone.

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bitca57 t1_iu5auwe wrote

Yes! I always have to read recaps or watch recap videos on YouTube. The wait in between shows is honestly getting a little ridiculous, if you ask me. The momentum is killed when we are having to wait well over a year, sometimes even two years, for another season. Take House of the Dragon for example. It just finished airing it's first season, but we aren't getting season 2 until sometime in 2024. It will be almost 2 years before we get another season. The story is fairly simple and easy to follow, but for me to even remotely remember half of what happened, I'm going to have to rewatch or read a bunch of recaps.

On one hand, I feel we can't complain too much because I'd rather have to wait to get another season than just simply not get another season at all. But on the other hand, maybe the long wait time is a huge reason why so many shows get cancelled so easily. By the time another season rolls around, people have forgotten about it and don't care. So people don't watch. You can't make people wait that long and expect them to keep coming back. There is too much TV out there right now. You have to keep the momentum going or people will lose interest and forget.

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bitca57 t1_iu59tb6 wrote

I don't think it's fair to say that a show is bad because of the CGI. It first aired in the late 90's. So of course the CGI for a late 90's WB drama that didn't have a huge movie studio budget isn't going to match up the standards of today. What makes the show great is the writing. It falters at times, but ultimately good outweighs the bad. In fact, I'd consider the "bad" parts of the show to be miles ahead of a lot of what we get today.

The show really perfected the art of long-form storytelling, mixed with standalone episodes. Even most of the standalone episodes feature key parts of the overall arc of the season, making it hard to skip episodes or want to skip the episodes.

Season 1 can be tough to get through, but mid season 2 is when the series really hits it stride and it keeps going and going. The Innocence/Surprise arc from season 2 really sets up the rest of the show. It's single-handily one of the most important parts of the entire series and one of my favorite things to legitimately come from any movie, TV show, book, or storytelling medium. Not to mention the episode Passion in season 2. That is some damn good writing. Season 3 is considered the highest point of the series, though.

Crazy to me that someone can literally catch 1 random episode of a show they've never seen and deem it bad. Maybe give it a shot and you'd be pleasantly surprised. It's a wonderful show!

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bitca57 t1_itmf48l wrote

I don't mind the uptick in pricing if they have the content to back it up, but I don't think they really do, though. Outside of Ted Lasso, what are they putting out that's actually getting attention? I guess *maybe* The Morning Show? Severance seemed to be a hit with award nominations, but is the general public aware of that show? I watched The Mosquito Coast simply because I adore Justin Theroux and Melissa George, but I've literally never heard anyone else talk about it. Lol They don't seem to have a large amount of hits on their service. Wracking my brain how they can justify upping the price. Oh well, though. Is what it is. Just a mystery to me how they can justify it. Lol

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bitca57 t1_it8er6c wrote

I only watched the series when it originally aired and have never rewatched since it went off the air. So I can't speak to when it got worse. However, over the years of watching it, I remember being less and less inclined to watch, especially the last couple seasons. It's just one of those things where every show has an expiration date, but networks don't know when to end a show. It's not about quality to them. It's about milking it for everything they can. Fox sucked every dime out of that show until it was no longer profitable for them.

I don't believe any show can benefit from being on the air for 10+ seasons. It's just too much. The characters get stale and the storylines start to run out. You end up repeating plot lines and going around and around in circles. People think that procedurals have the opportunity to go on for longer than the average show because it's "case of the week" and there are endless possibilities, but truthfully, there are only so many cases you can do that are truly that interesting. And there are only so many obstacles you can put a romantic relationship through before it just starts becoming unbelievable and you start questioning why those people are still together if the only thing they ever do is fight, bicker, and never see eye to eye on any situation.

The show ran its course, but Fox was still profiting from it. So they kept it going. I think 6 seasons is a good ending point for any TV show.

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