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bumharmony t1_j9jk7dh wrote
Reply to Thought experiments claim to use our intuitive responses to generate philosophical insights. But these scenarios are deceptive. Moral intuitions depend heavily on context and the individual. by IAI_Admin
They also give all reasoning a bad name. But academic philosophy is designed to keep people ignorant, like with the veil of ignorance though experiment.
bumharmony t1_j92milh wrote
Reply to comment by contractualist in The Ontology and Epistemology of Morality by contractualist
Kant compromises his theory of ethics for sure. No statist system can be apriori.
bumharmony t1_j92kjsm wrote
Reply to comment by NoobFade in The Ontology and Epistemology of Morality by contractualist
Equality does not somehow stem from rational agency into an observable and measurable feature. Even the first premise of ethics seems too difficult to justify.
It requires sort of argument from tradition or ideal theory so that we start from that people already accept atleast the baseline equality as non aggression and equal right to decide about other rules.
That works as long as people agree on them.
But another way Rawls uses is that all knowledge is a communal thing by definition. Science is valid only if the community agrees on the theory at hand. So ethics can be comparable science if there is a viewpoint that detaches from the aposteriori to apriorism that fits the idea of inductive logic (although Rawls speaks paradoxically of aposteriori apriori which he explains away with the ideal theory). And everyone who can do this has an equal vote on ethics, like science has its criterion (although it can lead to fallacy of expertise) So there is no many ethical theories, only peoole who have the virtue for ethics and who don’t.
bumharmony t1_j8wvdri wrote
Reply to comment by bit1101 in Reason and emotion are deeply connected. Understanding the interplay between them can help us make better sense of the world but eliminates the promise of objective rationality. by IAI_Admin
You need induction to make up concepts by giving them definitions: raven has features x. Deduction is the surface level comprehension: ”that is a raven because it has features x” when a data base has been established and concepts agrees upon.
But on the cartesian level you need water proof deduction to go forward and begin inference.
But induction can just make conceptions, observations and data bases of the observable objects whether they exist outside some alleged virtual reality for example. It is after all the reality where at least i’m personally forced to live in.
bumharmony t1_j8wgsz0 wrote
Reply to comment by bit1101 in Reason and emotion are deeply connected. Understanding the interplay between them can help us make better sense of the world but eliminates the promise of objective rationality. by IAI_Admin
What does logic ultimately evidence? Induction is not really possible, only as a sociological study of existing judgments. There was no such a promise of objective reasoning in the first place.
bumharmony t1_j8qy6jz wrote
Reply to comment by SaltyShawarma in Free Will Is Only an Illusion if You Are, Too by greghickey5
If you keep your Willy free in the public, your will will not be free in the near future.
bumharmony t1_j7alals wrote
Reply to comment by VitriolicViolet in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
Also statism in general.
Classical liberalism at least theorizes from a prestate scenario. Unlike statist theories. Maybe you just don't understand the concept.
bumharmony t1_j78stnj wrote
Reply to comment by Trubadidudei in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
I have never gotten past the point of introductory knowledge in these Reddit discussions.
Instead every day there are several new introductory topics about same themes.
Must be the limitations of chat bots.
bumharmony t1_j785d73 wrote
Reply to comment by Trubadidudei in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
And for lunatics like you we need man made rules so that you don’t get to roam free which is naturally a vacuum-like ground zero for the discussion rather than a man made thing.
bumharmony t1_j77ks8a wrote
Reply to comment by Trubadidudei in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
Did you know everything - including iffy natural scientific stories - are man made so man madedness does make an argument against anything?
bumharmony t1_j77dsbo wrote
Reply to comment by acutelychronicpanic in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
The only system that is coherent is then free grabbing of everything. That is the only real ex ante view to how societies necessarily begin.
But still one gets eventually shot for doing that?
How you make a theory of justice in this question begging framework of having legal right to ”protective violence” and gatekeeping all of the resources?
bumharmony t1_j77denv wrote
Reply to comment by DeusAxeMachina in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
Locke like kant is both moral realist and contractarian.
Everyone can grab resources so far others can do the same. It is pareto optimal truth (realism) so it can function as something what people agree not to violate (contract)
bumharmony t1_j75xrwb wrote
Reply to comment by BwanaAzungu in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist
They are not nature's rights I guess.
bumharmony t1_j6mxw5w wrote
Reply to comment by jamminjalepeno in The Conscious AI Conundrum: Exploring the Possibility of Artificial Self-Awareness by AUFunmacy
I believe that reality is basically unfathomable. Under real liberty there are no social contracts on anything. It is like the aftermath of the tower of Babel. (Which to me philosophically does not make ethics impossible)
If human is kidnapped to simulation or VR which is like momma’s house: it has its rules one can’t break or ask their justification, then any gadget or machine can seem conscious as long it does not break those rules. It is not the machine that is given consciousness but the world is simplified or dumbed down even.
bumharmony t1_j6jwfaq wrote
Reply to comment by Grim-Reality in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | January 30, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
Since say one this has been a religious, rather a philosophical community. Not that I would like to discuss Tate in particular.
bumharmony t1_j5xsmi3 wrote
Reply to comment by ilikedirts in "Like painters bring brush to canvas and sculptors set chisel against marble, so do the magnificent use their wealth to bring about beauty and inspire wonder in their people's eyes. Thus Aristotle calls them artists" - On Generosity and Magnificence, Nicomachean Ethics by SnowballtheSage
Eat ass
bumharmony t1_j5vfsxp wrote
Reply to comment by MarcusScythiae in The Best Books on Neoplatonism - To the modern reader, Neoplatonist thinkers can seem quite alien, but engaging with them helps us to understand ourselves and modern philosophy better, says Ursula Coope, Professor of Ancient Philosophy at the University of Oxford. by five_books
But does it add to it. For example nanalytical (neo) marxism promises a lot but I don’t know what its achievements are
bumharmony t1_j5t13ma wrote
Reply to comment by Krasmaniandevil in On Whether “Personhood” is a Normative or Descriptive Concept by ADefiniteDescription
To my understanding personhood is in simplicity the abilities that makes an agent: the ability to create and follow rules and create a conception of good. And it is the atomistic type of self. Indivisible. That is why governments, companies or states cannot be persons because they can be divided into smaller pieces and most likely parts of them are ignored in a majority rule type of situations. So therefore to me representative democracy fails already for that reason.
bumharmony t1_j5lwjjf wrote
Reply to The Best Books on Neoplatonism - To the modern reader, Neoplatonist thinkers can seem quite alien, but engaging with them helps us to understand ourselves and modern philosophy better, says Ursula Coope, Professor of Ancient Philosophy at the University of Oxford. by five_books
Has anything neo- ever been good? (not asking rhetorically)
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Reply to The Basis for Equality (addressing the justification for and limits of human equality) by contractualist
The trick about equality is that it leads to system where inequalities don’t exist. So we don’t need to guess ex post which systems are a result of an equal contracting.
We can measure with Pareto efficiency what is rational in general in a state of nature. It is intuitive and does not even require referring to values. It can be argued for behind the veil of ignorance or not.
But it would require a calculation about how much there is stuff in the world so it can be redistributed.
bumharmony t1_j3xlvzi wrote
Reply to Philosophy has never been the detached pursuit of truth. It’s always been deeply invested in its own cultural perspective. by IAI_Admin
Academic philosophy usually stops where philosophy could only actually start. It is like an engine that takes you to where the journey should begin but it stops working at that point.
bumharmony t1_j3wsdrp wrote
Reply to comment by ChaoticJargon in Philosophy has never been the detached pursuit of truth. It’s always been deeply invested in its own cultural perspective. by IAI_Admin
Perspectivism is no longer that curious about different views when it comes to monistic/foundationalist thinking.
bumharmony t1_j23q885 wrote
Reply to comment by Hehwoeatsgods in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
Yeah but apart from mathematics, symbols must have a concrete target it is connected to. If death is nothing then it cannot cause even any feelings, unless we have conditioned and suggested ourselves with that particular word, "death" so it causes for example fear. Of course the culture does this for us.
bumharmony t1_j21tcaa wrote
Reply to comment by Hehwoeatsgods in Life is a game we play without ever knowing the rules: Camus, absurdist fiction, and the paradoxes of existence. by IAI_Admin
But it does not belong to philosophy. Since philosophy is the study of the world, not study of the judgments about it as not all of them are very good. We know logically that not-life is not same as death starting after life. The meaning of life is to exist. So when it ends, the discussion about something existing ends. So we don’t even need empurical dispute about it, because it is conceptually coherent to say that after life there is nothing.
Life is every one’s viewpoint but death is the viewpoint of an outsider. But it has no value to the discussion.
bumharmony t1_jbbvizn wrote
Reply to comment by humanist96 in Game Theory's ultimate answer to real world dilemmas: "Generous Tit for Tat" by TryingTruly
How is cooperation a buzz word in the post just deserts discourse?