critfist

critfist t1_j8744lp wrote

> You go to the first safe country

Doesn't always work. Isn't always safe. If you want an example the refugee camps in Turkey are infamous for the lack of funding and terrible conditions. You wouldn't want to stay there for any long period of time. You're a human being and actually want a life that's more than waiting for help while living in squalor. For many families the solution was to have the adult men go for work where it's available so the family could have a better life.

> Most refugees are in fact not refuges

Utterly untrue. I think your views have been seriously warped if you believe this. There are 89.3 million refugees globally. Of which 72% are hosted in neighbouring countries. Only 17% of refugees are hosted in high income countries. Far from your narrative of "window shopping."

It's also insane to think that detaining them in a distant pacific island is fine even if your warped vision was true. If someone breaks a law just deport them why are you putting them on a prison island? It's psychotic.

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critfist t1_j82p7nc wrote

> You mean the ones that dont come via international recognised channels, the ones that pay thousands to people

A refugee is someone who is fleeing. There's no requirement to follow "recognized channels." If things go to shit in your country they're not expecting you to go to the border guards with your immigration papers. That's not how refugee works.

And even if it was, that doesn't really excuse detaining someone in a random pacific island.

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critfist t1_j28fpzy wrote

> Oh Protestants were the ones going around fucking murdering everyone and when told to stop it, went to America to be able to keep killing witches.

Bruh. There's ripping apart history and there's doing so because of reddit same think.

Importantly the protestants are an intensely varied group with dozens of creeds. Ranging from pacifists to millenarian militants. If you want an example of the pot calling the kettle black with said militants though, the catholic church is as well famous for persecuting people who were labelled witches, apostates, heretics, or any other seditious group.

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