SeiCalros

SeiCalros t1_jecsoqg wrote

>But that isn't what white supremacy is, you idiot.

ah yes forgive me for being such an idiot to have developed the misconception that white supremacy was somehow related to skin colour 🤡

>considering the anglo Saxon white supremacists targeted the Irish

really? tell me professor history 🤡 how long did that last 🤡🤡

seems in retrospect there may have been some quality the irish had that inhibited the persistency of that categorism

too bad its nothing obvious 🤡

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SeiCalros t1_jec9u8d wrote

i dont know if i can dumb this down for you any more but - if you have two things? and one is a subset of the other? THAT IS AN INTRINSIC ASSOCIATION

if there was no 'colorism' there would be no white supremacy - colorism is THE intrinsic and inextractible quality of white supremacy that distinguishes it from other ethnic discrimination

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SeiCalros t1_jebltvi wrote

i think theres a limit to the practical utility of reasoning with a person who refuses to recognize that the literal concept of 'white=better' is intrinsically associated with white supremacy

but i guess theres merit in the entertainment value of it

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SeiCalros t1_jebkf7y wrote

>White supremacy was not a concept in the minds of ordinary people at that time, as much as you wish it were.

in the 1920s? half a century after the american civil war? ten years before the aryan supremacist nazis took power in germany? the decade AFTER 'racist' was included in the oxford english dictionary?

i gotta say bruv despite your confidence i am getting the impression that your understanding of history is quite unburdened by the facts of history

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SeiCalros t1_jebhfs0 wrote

>We're talking about ordinary European people who had never even seen a black person let alone mixed with them

nah - what you said was

>Yeah the reverence for lily white skin back in those days had nothing to do with white supremacy

but the two concepts are intrinsically linked - reverence for lily white skin back in those days was intrinsically associated with white supremacy in every place where white supremacy existed

not to mention the fact that the reverence for lily white skin furthered white supremacy in places where it didnt have a strong foothold

now if you had said that the concepts existed separately from each other that would have been closer to true - but still debateable

>Race wasn't even an issue among common people in the UK until the immigration of West Indians, Africans, Indians and Pakistanis in the 20th century.

youre right there - its not like anybody in europe ever heard of the dark skinned moors that invaded christendom in the 7th century despite being mentioned in half the novels of the era

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SeiCalros t1_jebexyk wrote

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SeiCalros t1_ja178ba wrote

kinda getting off topic

pickles/cucumbers - button mushroom/portabello - mung beans /bean sprouts - dried/baked beans

there are all kinds of differences in food that can result from the cultivation and preparation rather than the cultivar

most people in north america would be familiar with the example i gave and wouldnt have a reason to believe that corn would be any different

in fact - the difference between sweet corn and popcorn is relatively mild compared to most of those other examples

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SeiCalros t1_ja15ieb wrote

mhmm and i understand you dont speak it well - but in english the word pickles generally refers to pickled cucumbers, and other pickled products are usually referred to as pickled [x] such as pickled carrots or pickled eggs

my comment is referring to the fact that those cultivars appear fundamentally different to a person like you - but part of the difference is that they were picked earlier on in their life cycle

a person who used your logic on popcorn - portabello mushrooms - pickled cucumbers - and bean sprouts - could be wrong on all counts except for the popcorn which is a distinct cultivar

but all the other ones are the same cultivars just picked at a different stage in their life cycle

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SeiCalros t1_ja12ueh wrote

yeah and button mushrooms arent portabello mushrooms either - but theyre the same species

but if you go to any supermarket in north america and find a jar marked 'pickles' it will probably contain cucumbers in brine

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SeiCalros t1_ja0qluc wrote

if it were that intuitive it would be true of pickles for cucumbers and of button mushrooms for portabello

unlike corn - both of those things are the result of th processing methods

certain cucumber cultivars are more likely to be used for pickles but theyre also smaller because theyre picked earlier - and portabello mushrooms are the SAME cultivar as button mushrooms - theyre just picked later

so to a person with a bit more knowledge than you have in general cooking and biology but a little bit less knowledge for corn specifically - maybe it isnt so obvious that popcorn kernels are a different cultivar from sweet corn kernels - maybe they just assumed - for example - that they were picked young and stripped differently from the cob

after all - its pretty obvious from comparing corn on the cob to frozen or canned corn that they cut the base of the kernel when processing it normally - which would prevent it from being popped even if it was the right cultivar

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SeiCalros t1_ja0mjji wrote

fundamental cooking knowledge?

failing biology?

why would a person not involved in the farming or factory production of corn need to know that popcorn kernals are the result of a distinct cultivar rather than a consequence of corns natural growth and methods of harvest?

where did you think people picked up that knowledge?

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SeiCalros t1_ja0hvmv wrote

>Differenct grains have been understood to do different things for centuries

the TIL isnt 'differenct grains do different things' its that popped corn is made from a cultivar named after the processing method

cornflour cornstarch cornmeal and creamed corn are usually made from specific cultivars too but none of those cultivars are named after their use and none of those processing methods are exclusive to the cultivar

its not like they call poppable rice cultivars 'poprice'

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SeiCalros t1_ja0dgaq wrote

the fact that you understand that tells me that youre cleverer than you give the impression for - but that wasnt implied by my comment nor is it particularly important

did you have any thoughts on any of the other stuff i said? any answers to the questions? any interest in elaborating on your confusing thought process?

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SeiCalros t1_ja07smj wrote

>You ignored my first question

well yeah - you werent really asking me

and the question isnt really confusing so i didnt have any comment on it

since most everywehre in the world has had popcorn for the past century or so i just assumed it was sarcastic - but either way it doesnt really raise any questions in the same way 'have you ever dried corn' does

>secondly, do you think all cheeses can be sliced and all beef can be steaks?

do you think that non-popcorn varieties of corn cannot be popped? how do you think they make puffed wheat?

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SeiCalros t1_ja05vqr wrote

'i thought popcorn was more about the harvest and processing method than the species' does not strike me as particularly a great deal to unpack

>Have you ever dried corn?

this question is more confusing to me than somebody not knowing popcorn varieties were somehow special

my insinctive response to seeing it is 'who the hell dries corn' to the point where somebody not having dried corn would be surprising

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SeiCalros t1_ja05kg0 wrote

you can take literally any grain and pop it

they usually call them puffed grains rather than popped grains - popcorn is special because it holds pressure pretty well so most of the kernels will pop even without the regular process you wold need for puffed wheat or puffed rice

although there are also varieties of rice that pop

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SeiCalros t1_j9wpmas wrote

depends on how much money you have and how important the horse is

horse biology does not tend itself to fixing broken legs - wild horses simply do not survive broken legs and even with modern medical care the leg never really gets fixed - it will heal a bit and then break again in the same spot

but!

in the past ten years or so weve developed some treatments for minor fractures that work pretty good

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