BREAKING NEWS: Vermont taxes the shit out of everything.

Vermont is great. The spring and summer are amazing. I just need to keep my feet in another state for 183 cold days and be able to claim residency there.

It certainly has taken a turn post pandemic. I went back a few weeks ago and the traffic was insane. But the political shit was hard to find. Seems to have subsided. But let’s see if 2024 brings it all back.

I lived there for 40 years so I know where to go to get away from the crazies. But yeah, the pandemic did Florida no favors.

Florida is great. Completely off topic, but great.

And if you think the houses they build in Vermont now, in 24 days aren’t the same stuff they build in Florida… they built an entire 20 house neighborhood a few miles from me in 3 months. For sale, 900k. Welcome to Vermont. Cha Ching.

Certainly I am in the upper percentages, but the average house in chittenden county is 570 right now. There are way more expensive houses all over this place.

I’m not playing pauper. The whole thread is about how expensive it is to retire here. And I am just explaining why it’s right. This place is really expensive. As a guy who makes good money, no way I stay and watch my retirement get ripped to shreds.

2037, my house is paid for, my last kid graduates high school and I retire. Then I’m going back to sunny Florida with the rest of the retirees.

No. Just a normal house. 1k a month prop taxes plus a lot of income tax. Seems like this is normal. Higher in Burlington. I can’t imagine the really expensive houses that may 20+k a year property taxes. In Florida I paid 300 a month property tax. Homesteading in Florida reduces the taxable value of your house by up to 50k. In VT it’s just work .1%.

But this goes to the argument that investment properties should pay significant higher property taxes if almost all the town revenue comes from property.

Income tax (top vt bracket) and high property tax (2.1 vs .9). I have a pretty high income.

I could include gas and power (.09 FPL vs .18 GMP).

Home owners and car insurance is lower in VT.

VT is beautiful. My wife is from here and wanted to move back to raise our kids. But the cost is felt every day. And it’s not like the roads are better, or the daycare is cheaper. It’s just the population is really low (probably a good thing) and the costs are fixed. Less people to pay all the bills.

❤️ it’s wonderful here. The schools are great. It’s just that my retirement will be eaten alive by the COL here.

Best of luck to you. I moved from Florida pre pandemic. My tax for living here is $28k a year. I think people get used to the high cost.

Yeah anyone who retires here is insane.

Chinese Tik Tok licking their lips that it only takes a piece of paper to shut down an airline for 5 hours.

Its all about the offset. Vermont makes power companies pay a fair credit for the power you make. So if you over produce in the summer, you can use those credits in the winter.

But VT is nothing like Florida when it comes to solar. 1/3 of the year, I make no power at all.

Ugggg. That's a tough one. I just came back from the kids vacation in Florida. Its crazy and over populated, but I still love it there. Warm, sunny, lots to do. Knowing that I am writing a $2300 check once a month for what is free or cheaper in Florida.

I love my wife and kids.

I’m in the 30% fed and top VT tax bracket. I moved from Florida pre pandemic. My extra cost to live here is $26k a year.

My wife is from here and the schools are great, so I eat it.

I’d move there just for the tax benefit if I could.

They had staffing issues for a long time. I heard several times they only had 1 employee doing everything.

178 nat gas and hot water. 1/4 cord of wood for ambiance. 2700 sq ft. So 200 total.

Not enough jobs. Only a few people to pay for everything. It’s $23k a year more for me to live here. I would like more (younger) people to balance it out. This is just a vacation state at this point.

Efing trees! Am I right!

Can’t wait for some snow and go there.

This isn’t an argument.

I absolutely use no services that save my DMs clear text. Should not have even started the app with on service, non-public messages.

it’s a non starter and I recommend no one use it. If this is the the security they thought was ok, imagine the rest of it. Join Mastodon and just wait for the alert that your information has been compromised.

Mastodon saves all DM clear text in the sql database. So the admins can read all your DMs for ever. This is a non-starter for most people.

And home owners insurance is so cheap in Vermont. No sarcasm. My insurance in Florida, was 5x because of hurricanes. I have insurance that is 1.5x the value of my house and a 1 million umbrella policy for a little over 150 a month. Car insurance also dirt cheap here.