yeah, that'll convince them.

Just one of many clueless takes in this thread.

My point is understanding the why behind these, for once.

If these kids had an actual opportunity to 'earn money' the vast majority would.

Until these problems are reconciled, it's going to get worse - not better.

Oh yeah, being bullied is exactly the same as being poor, parentless, living in a home without electricity or money.

Fuck sake.

or perhaps you're just mis-interpreting the message I'm attempting to get across. Have a good one.

1. I never justified poverty for murder or rape. See previous posts.

2. true poverty? No. I grew up in a household where my father went bankrupt 3 times. We had to cheat on taxes for years to keep bills paid, and eventually got audited/in trouble. Bills such as power barely got paid. We ate, but not well. I had it great compared to people in the inner city.

even less people become criminals when they don't have to worry where their next meal is coming from, or when they are able to have a home, transportation, and an actual job option.

The fucking entitlement in this thread is amazing, and the sad part is - 10 years ago I'd think example the same as you lot.

>Blaming brain development is just a excuse. My 11 and 7 year old kids know not to steal cars and rape people. Thats not going to change with they become 17. Its not a brain thing, its a how they were raised thing

Were they raised in an environment where parents were around to show them love and affection?

Were they raised in a relatively stable household with food, clothing, and electricity/shelter?

No, we aren't. I was referring to the carjacking itself and/or robbery.

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There's never an excuse for rape.

Oh, totally agree with anything past the carjacking/robbery.

and you grew up completely impoverished in a dangerous ghetto, right?

I'm not justifying it, they should all be punished/rehabbed; but these kids are doing it because they are born into a life with no future.

When I hear people say "no one is forced into it" I hear someone who hasn't got a fucking clue what a hard life is actually like.

and they also are doing it because they have no other practical choices in life.

I mean, it's incredibly sad that these are largely juvies. If these were older adults I'd just be angry.

American dystopia.

The whole billing system is nonsense, but I blame the University. It was one of their surgeons - separate 'company' - faculty physicians or whatever nonsense...but I mean I am set up for literally every online notification there is. I should have known it was there, and I just wasn't informed. Not my email, I don't THINK by snail mail (although it is possible it was recycled without opening, most of our mailbox is trash), and not in mychart/myportfolio.

just lame. probably didn't ding my credit but grrrr.

I had a medical bill I was completely unaware of for months. University of Maryland. Didn't show up on my portfolio, no mailing, no email.

Got a collection notice and was like "WTF?"

Pretty pissed off, our credit scores are both well over 800. We literally had no idea. Paid that moment online with the address they gave. Now I log into it once a month just in case.

Nonsense.