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lmsoa971 t1_j2de7nm wrote
Reply to comment by TheHunterZolomon in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
Basically, and like the Roman salute, they are both now synonymous with their respective fascism..
lmsoa971 t1_j2de3n3 wrote
Reply to comment by BlackPaperEDO in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
Some westerners also believe that Hitler sign is not necessarily a fascist sign either !
It comes from the Roman salute, so doing it doesn’t mean you are a fascist which has history and culture of thousands of year.
By your logic every Italian should be allowed to do it… unless you agree that time changes culture, and anyone who has a right mind understands that it’s no longer the Roman salute.
But it all comes down to how aware you are of the present culture and of your surroundings.
I mean where was the Turkish backlash when Turks were taking pictures of beheaded Kurds and Syrians throwing the grey wolves sign? Where is the backlash now when they are throwing grey wolf signs for a “environmental protest” that is blockading 120,000 people?
Why is the leader of the Turkish fascist party throwing the sign off the Turks don’t want to associate themselves with it?
Whether you want to accept it or not, the grey wolf sign has been synonymous with Turkish fascism. And it only seems like Turks don’t understand it, it’s like those Americans who put up the confederate flag and scream “it’s not racist it’s my history”.
lmsoa971 t1_j2d6n13 wrote
Reply to comment by marcusyami in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
And to add, unlike Nazis, Turanists are not necessarily shunned, with a big portion of Turkey voting the ultranationalist party, and even the Turkish president throwing the grey wolf sign (basically a “Heil Hitler” sign but for Grey wolves), and regularly meeting with the current party leaders.
It was only 2 years ago that Grey wolves was just banned in France after they did an racist protest screaming slurs at Armenians inside of the Armenian quarter in Paris..
lmsoa971 t1_j2d5q6h wrote
Reply to comment by marcusyami in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
The grey wolves is a Turkish ultranationalist group, much like Nazis, but unlike them, they follow Turanism (instead of naziism), or the belief of a superior Turkish race, the union of all Turkish states and reinstating the Ottoman Empire.
And you can imagine why a lot of people from the region don’t like him.
lmsoa971 t1_j28jmpm wrote
Reply to comment by istandabove in Armenians turn fire toward Russia as Nagorno-Karabakh blockade enters third week by machinesaredumb
Ukraine has been training its soldiers for a war against Russia for years. NATO trained too, and well equipped by the US.
Ukraine prepared for an attack from the Russian front and it’s these same barricades and fortifications that were built by experts over the years that are standing their ground in the Donbass and Kharkov regions.
Azerbaijan hasn’t prepared for any of that… Azerbaijan doesn’t even have an adequate anti-Air system since they were gonna fight Armenia who has close to nothing in air capabilities.
Azerbaijan also does not have an adequate air industry, but it has a shit ton of drones, and we see how well the Bayraktars are performing after the first month against Russian systems in Ukraine…and we know the reason why they got popularized was because of their success in the 2nd NK war, against no actual air defense systems.. and now we wonder why there are barely any bayraktar videos.
geopolitically speaking Azerbaijan has for the past 2 years closed all land borders for its citizens except for trade and such, and all Military personnel and weaponry from Turkey pass from Georgia and Georgia only. Since neither Iran or Armenia allow it.
Also for a mountainous expedition, Azerbaijan and Russia will be on even playing fields at the start since they both have elevated and mountainous regions on their border. But unlike Ukraine, the density of population is extremely small in rural areas. And the amount of big cities is also small.
And main transit routes are from plane fields and non-mountainous regions. So Russia might simply use the sea roads to advance forward, like how Azerbaijan did against Armenia (using Irans border to advance) and unlike what Russia is doing now (pushing into direct Ukrainian territory)
We’re also not mentioning that Azerbaijan, unlike Ukraine, also doesn’t have an internal military-industrial complex, that produces armored vehicles (like Poland, Bulgaria, and the entirety of Europe sending weapons to Ukraine). And no neighbors willing to sell their own, except Turkey who will need to spend millions from his already dwindling economy to do so.
lmsoa971 t1_j2e6tqz wrote
Reply to comment by ZrvaDetector in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
Grey wolves group has beheaded Kurds, Syrians and Armenians, you can find the pictures of them holding the grey wolves sign with the heads.
The grey wolf Organization denies the existence, or better yet justifies the genocides against the Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians.
Currently there is a blockade endangering the lives of 120,000 people and you can see the Turks blockading the only road throwing grey wolf signs, the International Genocide institution has deemed this as a potential genocide.
The expansionist ideology is currently being enacted in Syria with Turkey invading them.
Your idea of “they still haven’t done anything to Europe” doesn’t change the fact that if not the organization, at least it’s predecessors have enacted Turkish fascism, and the leaders have on many occasions solidified their predecessors stances.