mlamping

mlamping t1_jaa8hf0 wrote

They’re suing but losing.

Look at all the last suits.

And there were like 7 fatalities (rip to those who passed). Paying out a few million to those families won’t hurt the technology or the other companies pursuing self driving.

The government won’t touch stifling any AI company right now in fear of China and others getting there first

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mlamping OP t1_j6ltyeo wrote

No, it’s that all the tech they built in 2008 to do it is outdated and they have to continue because they spent billions on lidars and other expensive sensors.

How I know? I know ppl at some of these top fsd contenders. Using LiDAR or camera to sense the world are so close in efficiency that the cost for LiDAR etc is stupid. That’s why many LiDAR based fsd companies are old and the new ones are all camera based.

LiDAR main advantage was distance and range sensing. 5 cameras, and video stitching along with the software solved that 5 years ago. Hence why the talk of fusion multiple sensor types together is stupid. You can do range and distance with cameras pretty well

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mlamping OP t1_j6ltk6u wrote

No, it’s that all the tech they built in 2008 to do it is outdated and they have to continue because they spent billions on lidars and other expensive sensors.

How I know? I know ppl at some of these top fsd contenders. Using LiDAR or camera to sense the world are so close in efficiency that the cost for LiDAR etc is stupid. That’s why many LiDAR based fsd companies are old and the new ones are all camera based.

LiDAR main advantage was distance and range sensing. 5 cameras, and video stocking along with the software solved that 5 years ago. Hence why the talk of fusion multiple sensor types together is stupid. You can do range and distance with cameras pretty well

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mlamping OP t1_j6ls9cv wrote

Exactly, dude came on here saying “single modality sensors”. As if humans that are deaf can’t drive with just their eyes. Humans have been doing it with 2 cameras for a century (2 eyes).

He probably works at a startup as an intern or junior ai engineer.

Tesla sticthes like 5 cameras. The problem isn’t object detection, or localization it’s decision making (path finding and planning) to get from A to B that is the hard part.

He has no clue

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mlamping OP t1_j6lrlx0 wrote

If you believe sensing is still a problem in self driving and it’s not the decision making, like I said, you need good-luck.

How is anything I said a podcast? What podcast talks about this stuff?

Again to ppl reading this, all you have to do is search the current ai leaders and see what they say. That’s it. Or read papers that are freely open on the internet of current ideas

Don’t believe this FUD. He probably has puts.

Also don’t believe me either, all this information is freely available.

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mlamping OP t1_j6lqeuo wrote

2d pixel maps?

What are you even talking about? Tesla does video stitching of multiple cameras, 3d video into the neural net. You don’t even know what your talking about.

They’re close to end to end models and have the training data for training this, which will be their next release. Including path finding in the neural net versus A* search, which every self driving startup is doing

You still in 2d images doing classification, I learned that shit in 2012. Catch-up. Object detection is near 99.999% hence why your original comments show how out of touch you are, or that you really don’t know what you’re saying

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mlamping OP t1_j6lord0 wrote

If we battled credentials, I’d bet you wouldn’t hold a candle to me.

But I digress. “Single modality” sounds like 2008 wants their machine learning and hand crafted features selection. Assuming you meant the use of different types of senors. Because Tesla neural network stack is a multi modal, multi task, multi net. But I’m assuming you know that already because “you work in the industry”.

We both here, so we’re both regards, so to anyone reading this wondering who is right, google Andrej kaparthy or any ai expert like lex Friedman.

And don’t believe idiots like above

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mlamping OP t1_j6lm119 wrote

I think you’re an idiot.

The best ai minds (Andrew ng, Andrej kaparthy, bunch of open ai engineers I know) all have Teslas and all believe Tesla is poised to solve full self driving first.

“Single modality” 🤣 F off, stop trying to talk like you know any of this. Sensing is done, and is already agreed upon in the industry, cameras aren’t the problem. Decision making is the problem, ie neural nets and if you had a Tesla and the latest beta, you’d know they’re fucking close

I hate it when people try to act as if they know anything

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