Wrong. Stabbings are up.

You've created a strawman. Your whole comment is based on a strawman.

This policy is for people who are literally hurting passerby or living in their own shit and self-medicating with recreational drugs that worsen their symptoms and increase the likelihood they will hurt someone. Or alternately, be murdered on the street.

"It's scary and crappy, so I'm trying to understand how forcing someone at some level to do something is permissible." All of us that are familiar with with abuses of the past or that have experienced/are familiar with mental illness might worry but this is for people who already lack autonomy and have medical conditions that make them a danger to themselves and others.

I'm sorry, but you guys really don't get it...nobody cares about you and your ADHD. You can manage your own care...this is for people that can't. Who can't function, who are relying on aging parents to care for them when they're increasingly old and feeble.

You should read this piece. This is who these political charges are for. I'd also advise you to google Andrew Goldstein.

https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/11/16/23461606/mental-health-treatment-housing-crime-violence

No offense, you seem naive. We can't house people that are employed and can (or used to) pay rent and can function in society, and no, housing is not enough for the population this initiative is aimed at. Some of them are housed - with family - and hurt their families, or destroy the homes they already reside in. Putting someone that's psychotic in an apartment they'll burn down or smear with shit when left to their own devices isn't a solution.

We need more long-term care facilities in general, not just for the dangerous - for the suicidal, for those in medical recovery that have lost mobility and brain functioning, for those that can't otherwise care for themselves due to something like brain injury. Or in your case, for people who are in the middle and can generally manage their care but might get to a point they need inpatient care for a period - voluntarily.

"I’m sticking it out in hopes it will get better." They're not going to until people start demanding better. That's why elections matter.

People should want the place they've lived their whole lives and had roots to be livable.

Don't forget Hochul and injectables.

https://www.hudsonvalley360.com/news/nystate/hochul-decriminalizes-syringes-expands-substance-use-treatment-in-prisons/article_323148b7-2e29-57de-9e6d-8055c2674eb9.html

This place is amazing. They complain about what they literally voted for, and of course, what they unwittingly voted for is beyond the pale in any functional place

That's legal. Literally. https://www.hudsonvalley360.com/news/nystate/hochul-decriminalizes-syringes-expands-substance-use-treatment-in-prisons/article_323148b7-2e29-57de-9e6d-8055c2674eb9.html

It is not "ironic" unless you don't pay attention and don't realize how bad our leaders are.

Perhaps we should make a big fuss about crime rates returning to where they were that long ago.