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tatxc t1_ixjdd4x wrote
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Nobody argued that, it's the definition of a straw man. Nobody argued that European countries were perfect. And the fact you're trying to argue that is because you know the actual point of contention is irrefutable. You're just JAQing off.
The simple and irrefutable fact is that all Western European countries are significantly better places for homosexuals to live, work and visit than Qatar. The [LGBTQ+ safety index] and (https://www.asherfergusson.com/lgbtq-travel-safety/) equalidex both clearly illustrate this.
tatxc t1_ixj476h wrote
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This is nonsense, a legally binding, state recognised agreement between two people, while not perfect, is clearly better than being imprisoned for committing the acts required to develop a connection needed to enter said contact. This is a fact and its why the safety index is so heavily different. I'll only be accepting sourced arguments from reasonably objective sources from you now I'm afraid.
tatxc t1_ixj0o44 wrote
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No they don't, this has been to court before. They don't go to prison, they just get reclassified as civil unions. You have no idea what you're talking about.
The LGBTQ+ safety index rates Italy 53rd of 203 countries with a score of 168. Qatar are rated 190th with a score of - 137.
They aren't the same. You know that, I know that. We're done here.
tatxc t1_ixiuaas wrote
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That's because qatar imprisons people for the act of homosexuality and offers no legal alternative. So we can't dismiss that at all, they're not the same and you know that.
tatxc t1_ixifgjb wrote
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No, 495 is for falsely declaring on official documents and the penalty is one year.
I think you know this too, as there's never been a case of a homosexual being prosecuted under these laws.
tatxc t1_ixi7ccs wrote
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Yeah sorry going to need a source on that one.
tatxc t1_ixgpbl4 wrote
Reply to comment by 44MHz in BBC ignores World Cup opening ceremony in favour of Qatar criticism by AcknowledgeableReal
Sexual acts of male homosexuality are illegal in Qatar, with a punishment of up to three years in prison and a fine and the possibility of a death penalty for Muslims under sharia law.
You're not fooking anyone with this disingenuous crap and you're just factually wrong here.
tatxc t1_ixeq95x wrote
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Being gay is illegal in qatar. Its very fucking different and you know it.
And its easy to avoid unless you're visiting a country for an event. And none of that addresses the ban on public prayer. They're both clearly an attempt to suppress Judaism.
tatxc t1_ixe1d0x wrote
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Halal slaughter is banned in animal rights grounds. Halal food isn't, you can buy Halal food there easily.
And Italy might not have gay marriage but it does have civil unions registered by the state. That's not the same as Qatar where its illegal.
tatxc t1_ixcnh8x wrote
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Yeah, no. Gays can't get married in Qatar.
Jews can't even get koshur food there right now or pray in public.
tatxc t1_ixchuo0 wrote
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In the UK any Muslim could get married in any state registry office or C of E Church a Christian could.
tatxc t1_ixjgc07 wrote
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> And European countries are significantly worse than Qatar for Muslims.
I'm afraid you're going to need a citation for the fact that Muslims' human rights are better catered for in Qatar than in the UK. Because for gay Muslims, women, foreign working Muslims or even Shia Muslims